June 3, 2025
Chapter 106: Without A Trace-The Disappearance of Suzanne Lyall
On March 2, 1998, 19-year-old college student Suzanne Lyall vanished just steps from her dorm at SUNY Albany. Despite a seemingly normal night and a confirmed sighting as she stepped off a city bus, Suzanne was never seen again. Today, I walk you through one of New York’s most haunting missing persons cases.I'll retrace her final known movements, go over the limited amount of suspects, and explain just how her parents’ fight for justice changed state law. What happened to Suzanne Lyall — and why has no one been held accountable?
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Hello, Hello, Welcome to the next chapter in the Book
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of the Dead. On March second, nineteen ninety eight, a
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nineteen year old computer science major at Sunny Albany clocked
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out of her part time job at a mall just
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a few miles from campus. She boarded a city bus
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like she always did, and she was seen getting off
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at her usual stop, but she never made it back
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to her dorm. No one saw what happened next. No
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signs of a struggle, no definitive leads, just silence and
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a family left searching for answers that never came. Today,
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I will tell you the story about a missing woman
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where from the very beginning everyone was at a loss
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as to what happened to her, and how her parents
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have fought relentlessly to get answers and to advocate for
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other victims like their daughter. They have created a legacy
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that has changed a state's entire response to campus crimes.
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This is the disappearance of Susanne Lyle. Susanne Lyle was
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born on April sixth, nineteen seventy eight, to Doug and
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Mary Lyle in Saratoga Springs, New York. She was the
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baby of the family. Her sister Sandy was nine years
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older and her brother, Steve was twelve years old. Suzanne,
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growing up in Boston, SPA, was doted on by her
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brother and sister. According to ABC News, Mary said quote,
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they fought over who was going to have her sleep
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in their room when she was an infant. When Susie
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started kindergarten, Steve started his first year in college, and
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he would come back almost every weekend and take Susie
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to all sorts of places he couldn't stand being without her.
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As she got older, Suzanne developed a love of poetry
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and sewing, but her greatest passion was computers. This love
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of all things computer related started when her father brought
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home a Commodore computer when Suzanne was ten years old.
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According to Mary Quote, nobody knew what a computer was
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and the Commodore's back then. All they did was ad
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and subtract really slowly at that, but she was really
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curious about the computer. By the time she was twelve
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years old, she was taking the computer apart and rebuilding it.
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Suzanne figured out that she could access different bulletin boards
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and have conversations with all sorts of people on the Internet,
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which she loved because she always felt like she was
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on the shy side. This gave her an outlet to
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make connections with people. Suzanne also did incredibly well in
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school and continued chatting with her online friends in her
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free time, even allegedly joining a computer club where she
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met Richard Condon. He was a year so older than her,
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and they would go on to date for the rest
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of her high school career and into college. According to
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a blog post that deep dives into this case, written
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by L. R. Gordon. Suzanne and Richard were inseparable throughout
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their relationship, but they had broken up briefly due to
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Richard being possessive. While Doug seemed to have a positive
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opinion about his daughter's boyfriend, Mary was allegedly not incredibly
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fond of him and had reservations due to this apparent
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possessiveness and controlling behavior he was displaying. After graduating from
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Boston High School with honors in nineteen ninety six, Suzanne
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enrolled at Sunny Oneonta to study computer science, but after
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finding that the professors had a minimal working knowledge of
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computers and that she had nothing more she could learn
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from them, Suzanne transferred to Sunny at Albany in nineteen
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ninety seven, where she hoped the courses would give her
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more to learn about. Transferring to Albany would also allow
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her to be closer to Richard, who was enrolled at
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a school nearby. As her sophomore year started, Suzanne maintained
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a very busy schedule, dividing her time between classes a
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part time job at Babbage's computer software store at the
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Crossgates Mall in nearby Guilderland. As well as another job
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at a computer firm in Troy, which was about ten
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miles away. Even with her days filled with work in school,
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Suzanne always made time to talk to her family. According
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to an article for The Post Star, she emailed and
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called her parents and siblings almost every single day, as
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well as staying in constant communication with Richard. In nineteen
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ninety eight, Suzanne was nineteen years old and midterm week
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at SUNNI was the week of March second, and Suzanne
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was studying a lot to prepare. On March first, according
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to ABC, she called her mom and wished Mary a
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happy birthday, apologizing for her exams keeping her away this year.
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After the phone call, Suzanne gets on the bus and
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heads to Crossgates Mall for her shift at Babbage's. During
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this shift, she confides to her manager that she's really
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nervous about her exam the next day on the second.
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Her manager tells her not to worry and the exam
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will go well. On March second, Suzanne takes her midterm
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and attends class until four pm. When she gets back
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on the bus for her closing shift at Babbage's. Her
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manager asked her how the test went, and she confirms
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that she thought she did okay. Suzanne worked with another
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coworker until the store closed at nine pm. The bus
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driver claims to have seen Suzanne board the Capitol District
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Transit Authority bus back to Sunni at nine twenty pm,
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getting off at the Collins Circle stop at nine forty
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five pm. From there, she would have headed to her
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dorm room at the Colonial Quad building, which was about
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nine hundred and fifty feet away, except Suzanne never made
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it to her room that night. The next day, after
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all of his calls to Suzanne go unanswered, Richard calls
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the Liles and informs them that he believes Susan never
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made it back home after work. Marian Zog called the
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campus police to do a welfare check, but they are unconcerned,
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telling the Liles that students disappeared for a couple of
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hours or a day all the time, it was nothing
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to worry about. However, the Lyles disagreed. According to people,
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Doug said quote, I knew something awful had happened. Susie
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was not a risk taker. She didn't party or use
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alcohol or drugs now In. Campus police checked her room
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and her class schedule on the fourth, which was a Wednesday,
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and there was still no sign of her. They called
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in the New York State Police to officially report Suzanne missing.
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According to ABC News, Doug immediately drove up to Albany
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and had to look around Suzanne's storm room, but nothing
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was a miss. Her glasses were in her room and
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her hair dryer was on the bed as if she
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had just put it down after getting ready. Noticeably missing, though,
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was her wallet, id and keys. As the investigation got underway,
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there weren't any leads that could point police in a
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solid direction. They knew after speaking to mall security, her manager,
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and the bus driver her movements at the time of
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her disappearance, and they believed Suzanne disappeared from Colin's Circle
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as her key card had not been used to enter
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her dorm, but otherwise they had no idea as to
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where she would have gone. Marian Dog requested her bank
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statements and saw that Suzanne had withdrawn money three times.
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She withdrew twenty dollars on March second on campus, and
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then another twenty dollars was withdrawn at the mall. Oddly enough, though,
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twenty dollars was withdrawn on March third from a Stewart's
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Convenience store, a couple of miles from campus, the day
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that Suzanne was already confirmed to had been missing. Unfortunately,
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there weren't any cameras in the ATM to see who
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had used the card, but there were security cameras inside
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the store. Now, while Suzanne was not spotted on these cameras,
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a man in a Nike he had at the time
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the card was used was, and police were interested in
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speaking to him as a potential witness. Now this man
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was questioned a few times, and according to the blog
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post I mentioned, he was confirmed to work at Sunni
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in the cafeteria and had also had a prior conviction
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for sexual assault, but was ultimately cleared of any involvement
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due to having a very solid alibi. Also questioned concerning
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Suzanne's disappearance is Richard, who allegedly claimed to have proposed
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to Suzanne, although this was unable to be verified by
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her parents. As far as they knew, the two were
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not engaged. Richard explained he knew something was wrong because
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he and Suzanne had a nightly routine. They would chat
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on the phone or email every night when Suzanne got
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off of work, but she never answered any of his
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calls or emails. Richard also had an alibi, claiming that
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he was playing an online game with a friend at
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the time Suzanne disappeared. Now his friend did corroborate this,
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saying that he knew he was playing with Richard based
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on the way that the character was moving, although admittedly
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this is a very shaky alibi at best to make
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a frustrating investigation even worse. Though one the investigation was
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only a few days old, a snowstorm swept through Albany,
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covering up any potential evidence the police may have been
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able to find and hindering things even further. By the
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end of the second week, according to the Post Star,
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the police had searched over three hundred acres of land,
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including the mall, bike trails and a lake near the
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Albany campus, but nothing helpful turned up. They also tracked
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down two hundred and seventy leads looking for anything that
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could help them locate Suzanne. Additionally, they also compared Suzanne's
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disappearance to another missing person's case from thirteen years prior,
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that of twenty two year old SUNNI student Karen Wilson,
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who disappeared after getting off of a bus a mile
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from the campus. State investigator James Horton told the Post Star, quote,
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we rehashed a lot of old leads, but right now
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there are no glaring similarities that lead us to believe
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it's the same perpetrator. The Lyles worked with Sunny to
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offer a fifteen thousand dollars reward in the hopes of
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garnering more leads that would aid in the investigation. Mary
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and Doug were relentless in their search for answers, calling
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everyone they could think of who knew Suzanne, hoping that
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someone somewhere knew something about what happened to their daughter,
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even friends she had who lived out of state. They also,
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due to the sheer volume of calls they were receiving
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from the police and the media, got a second phone
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line so that their main number would be available if
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Suzanne ever called. Doug said, quote, it's been a really difficult,
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exasperating experience for us. It's our belief she's not running
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away from home. A potential lead came briefly when Claude
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Wildsey from Albany was arrested in Springfield, Illinois after violating
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his parole. He was convicted rapist in the area when
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Suzanne disappeared, but after questioning him, he was not considered
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to be a suspect. According to the Staten Island Advance.
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Police did look into the possibility that the sighting of
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Suzanne getting off of the bus on campus was incorrect.
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A student had claimed to see Suzanne at the campus
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bus stop, but police thought it was possible the student
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had not actually seen her there. The bus driver was
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spoken with as well to try and determine Suzanne's movements
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more definitively, but he could only remember seeing Suzanne boord
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his bus, not what stop she got off at. They
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even tossed her on the idea yeah that Suzanne never
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made it on the bus to begin with, although there
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was no evidence of this. Police ultimately started considering the
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idea that Suzanne had met with foul play on the
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night she went missing. Two months after Suzanne went missing,
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the case has already gone cold and they have very
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little to go on. A Babbage ID card belonging to
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Suzanne was found in the parking lot across campus from
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where her dorm room was. The card was in bad condition,
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bends and weathered, and appeared to have been on the
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ground for a long time university police chief Frank Wiley said,
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according to the Republican quote, hopefully this will lead us
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in some direction towards the safe return of Suzanne Lyle.
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According to a few sources, the most interesting thing about
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this ID badge was that it was an older version
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than the one currently being used at Babbage's. It's possible
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