Chapter 106: Without A Trace-The Disappearance of Suzanne Lyall

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1:18 Oh they're sparkle farts, my trust the Unicorn. I've got to tell these good people about our show. Hey there, I'm CJ host to be on the Rainbow True Crimes of the LGBTQ Plus. While I do have episodes on some of the more well known cases from the LGBTQ communities, such as Matthew Shepherd, Brandon Tina and the Orlando Pulse nightclub massacre, I cover world cases like the London nail bombing murders, Australia's Snowtown murders in South Africa's corrective rape and murder of lesbians. I cover lesser known cases like the murder of twenty one year old trans man Alex Van Dolson in Indiana. Police called his death a suicide.

2:06 Spoiler alert, it wasn't I tell you about wrongful conviction cases, serial killers, and school shooters. My unicorn and I cover all sorts of crimes against the LGBTQ and crimes by members of the LGBTQ. You don't have to be part of the community to listen. All walks of life are welcome to become Rainbow Warriors because you matter. And remember it's not a crime to be gay. I'm not you're a murderer. Hello, Hello, Welcome to the next chapter in the Book of the Dead. On March second, nineteen ninety eight, a nineteen year old computer science major at Sunny Albany clocked out of her part time job at a mall just a few miles from campus. She boarded a city bus like she always did, and she was seen getting off at her usual stop, but she never made it back to her dorm. No one saw what happened next. No signs of a struggle, no definitive leads, just silence and a family left searching for answers that never came. Today, I will tell you the story about a missing woman where from the very beginning everyone was at a loss as to what happened to her, and how her parents have fought relentlessly to get answers and to advocate for other victims like their daughter. They have created a legacy

3:37 that has changed a state's entire response to campus crimes. This is the disappearance of Susanne Lyle. Susanne Lyle was born on April sixth, nineteen seventy eight, to Doug and Mary Lyle in Saratoga Springs, New York. She was the baby of the family. Her sister Sandy was nine years older and her brother, Steve was twelve years old. Suzanne, growing up in Boston, SPA, was doted on by her brother and sister. According to ABC News, Mary said quote, they fought over who was going to have her sleep in their room when she was an infant. When Susie started kindergarten, Steve started his first year in college, and he would come back almost every weekend and take Susie to all sorts of places he couldn't stand being without her.

4:26 As she got older, Suzanne developed a love of poetry and sewing, but her greatest passion was computers. This love of all things computer related started when her father brought home a Commodore computer when Suzanne was ten years old. According to Mary Quote, nobody knew what a computer was and the Commodore's back then. All they did was ad and subtract really slowly at that, but she was really curious about the computer. By the time she was twelve years old, she was taking the computer apart and rebuilding it. Suzanne figured out that she could access different bulletin boards and have conversations with all sorts of people on the Internet, which she loved because she always felt like she was on the shy side. This gave her an outlet to make connections with people. Suzanne also did incredibly well in school and continued chatting with her online friends in her free time, even allegedly joining a computer club where she met Richard Condon. He was a year so older than her, and they would go on to date for the rest of her high school career and into college. According to a blog post that deep dives into this case, written by L. R. Gordon. Suzanne and Richard were inseparable throughout their relationship, but they had broken up briefly due to Richard being possessive. While Doug seemed to have a positive opinion about his daughter's boyfriend, Mary was allegedly not incredibly

6:01 fond of him and had reservations due to this apparent possessiveness and controlling behavior he was displaying. After graduating from Boston High School with honors in nineteen ninety six, Suzanne enrolled at Sunny Oneonta to study computer science, but after finding that the professors had a minimal working knowledge of computers and that she had nothing more she could learn from them, Suzanne transferred to Sunny at Albany in nineteen ninety seven, where she hoped the courses would give her more to learn about. Transferring to Albany would also allow her to be closer to Richard, who was enrolled at a school nearby. As her sophomore year started, Suzanne maintained a very busy schedule, dividing her time between classes a part time job at Babbage's computer software store at the Crossgates Mall in nearby Guilderland. As well as another job at a computer firm in Troy, which was about ten miles away. Even with her days filled with work in school, Suzanne always made time to talk to her family. According to an article for The Post Star, she emailed and called her parents and siblings almost every single day, as well as staying in constant communication with Richard. In nineteen ninety eight, Suzanne was nineteen years old and midterm week at SUNNI was the week of March second, and Suzanne was studying a lot to prepare. On March first, according to ABC, she called her mom and wished Mary a

7:33 happy birthday, apologizing for her exams keeping her away this year. After the phone call, Suzanne gets on the bus and heads to Crossgates Mall for her shift at Babbage's. During this shift, she confides to her manager that she's really nervous about her exam the next day on the second. Her manager tells her not to worry and the exam will go well. On March second, Suzanne takes her midterm and attends class until four pm. When she gets back on the bus for her closing shift at Babbage's. Her manager asked her how the test went, and she confirms that she thought she did okay. Suzanne worked with another coworker until the store closed at nine pm. The bus driver claims to have seen Suzanne board the Capitol District Transit Authority bus back to Sunni at nine twenty pm, getting off at the Collins Circle stop at nine forty five pm. From there, she would have headed to her dorm room at the Colonial Quad building, which was about nine hundred and fifty feet away, except Suzanne never made it to her room that night. The next day, after all of his calls to Suzanne go unanswered, Richard calls the Liles and informs them that he believes Susan never made it back home after work. Marian Zog called the campus police to do a welfare check, but they are unconcerned, telling the Liles that students disappeared for a couple of hours or a day all the time, it was nothing

9:04 to worry about. However, the Lyles disagreed. According to people, Doug said quote, I knew something awful had happened. Susie was not a risk taker. She didn't party or use alcohol or drugs now In. Campus police checked her room and her class schedule on the fourth, which was a Wednesday, and there was still no sign of her. They called in the New York State Police to officially report Suzanne missing. According to ABC News, Doug immediately drove up to Albany and had to look around Suzanne's storm room, but nothing was a miss. Her glasses were in her room and her hair dryer was on the bed as if she had just put it down after getting ready. Noticeably missing, though, was her wallet, id and keys. As the investigation got underway, there weren't any leads that could point police in a solid direction. They knew after speaking to mall security, her manager, and the bus driver her movements at the time of her disappearance, and they believed Suzanne disappeared from Colin's Circle as her key card had not been used to enter her dorm, but otherwise they had no idea as to where she would have gone. Marian Dog requested her bank statements and saw that Suzanne had withdrawn money three times.

10:28 She withdrew twenty dollars on March second on campus, and then another twenty dollars was withdrawn at the mall. Oddly enough, though, twenty dollars was withdrawn on March third from a Stewart's Convenience store, a couple of miles from campus, the day that Suzanne was already confirmed to had been missing. Unfortunately, there weren't any cameras in the ATM to see who had used the card, but there were security cameras inside the store. Now, while Suzanne was not spotted on these cameras, a man in a Nike he had at the time the card was used was, and police were interested in speaking to him as a potential witness. Now this man was questioned a few times, and according to the blog post I mentioned, he was confirmed to work at Sunni in the cafeteria and had also had a prior conviction for sexual assault, but was ultimately cleared of any involvement due to having a very solid alibi. Also questioned concerning Suzanne's disappearance is Richard, who allegedly claimed to have proposed to Suzanne, although this was unable to be verified by her parents. As far as they knew, the two were not engaged. Richard explained he knew something was wrong because he and Suzanne had a nightly routine. They would chat on the phone or email every night when Suzanne got off of work, but she never answered any of his calls or emails. Richard also had an alibi, claiming that

12:03 he was playing an online game with a friend at the time Suzanne disappeared. Now his friend did corroborate this, saying that he knew he was playing with Richard based on the way that the character was moving, although admittedly this is a very shaky alibi at best to make a frustrating investigation even worse. Though one the investigation was only a few days old, a snowstorm swept through Albany, covering up any potential evidence the police may have been able to find and hindering things even further. By the end of the second week, according to the Post Star, the police had searched over three hundred acres of land, including the mall, bike trails and a lake near the Albany campus, but nothing helpful turned up. They also tracked down two hundred and seventy leads looking for anything that could help them locate Suzanne. Additionally, they also compared Suzanne's disappearance to another missing person's case from thirteen years prior, that of twenty two year old SUNNI student Karen Wilson, who disappeared after getting off of a bus a mile from the campus. State investigator James Horton told the Post Star, quote, we rehashed a lot of old leads, but right now there are no glaring similarities that lead us to believe it's the same perpetrator. The Lyles worked with Sunny to offer a fifteen thousand dollars reward in the hopes of garnering more leads that would aid in the investigation. Mary

13:36 and Doug were relentless in their search for answers, calling everyone they could think of who knew Suzanne, hoping that someone somewhere knew something about what happened to their daughter, even friends she had who lived out of state. They also, due to the sheer volume of calls they were receiving from the police and the media, got a second phone line so that their main number would be available if Suzanne ever called. Doug said, quote, it's been a really difficult, exasperating experience for us. It's our belief she's not running away from home. A potential lead came briefly when Claude Wildsey from Albany was arrested in Springfield, Illinois after violating his parole. He was convicted rapist in the area when Suzanne disappeared, but after questioning him, he was not considered to be a suspect. According to the Staten Island Advance.

14:30 Police did look into the possibility that the sighting of Suzanne getting off of the bus on campus was incorrect. A student had claimed to see Suzanne at the campus bus stop, but police thought it was possible the student had not actually seen her there. The bus driver was spoken with as well to try and determine Suzanne's movements more definitively, but he could only remember seeing Suzanne boord his bus, not what stop she got off at. They even tossed her on the idea yeah that Suzanne never made it on the bus to begin with, although there was no evidence of this. Police ultimately started considering the idea that Suzanne had met with foul play on the night she went missing. Two months after Suzanne went missing, the case has already gone cold and they have very little to go on. A Babbage ID card belonging to Suzanne was found in the parking lot across campus from where her dorm room was. The card was in bad condition, bends and weathered, and appeared to have been on the ground for a long time university police chief Frank Wiley said, according to the Republican quote, hopefully this will lead us in some direction towards the safe return of Suzanne Lyle.

15:45 According to a few sources, the most interesting thing about this ID badge was that it was an older version than the one currently being used at Babbage's. It's possible that Suzanne used her old badge on the day she went missing, but it was also theorized that the badge was planted where it was found. Even with the discovery of Suzanne's ID badge, the investigation when colled again very quickly. There was just no other physical evidence or suspects that could point police in the right direction. According to people, the Liles joined a crime victim support group to try and process their grief. It was in this group that they learned of a couple in California who had successfully campaigned for campus security laws to be changed when their own daughter disappeared. Inspired, the Liles met with state legislator and Governor George Battaggi to push for a similar change.

16:41 Doug said quote, Colleges hesitate to report to other agencies because they think the students will return. College police must take missing student reports more seriously. The mindset of colleges is that students are off having a good time. The longer you wait, the more chances of a good outcome diminished. According to the Telegram Tribune, he also wanted to change federal laws that called for twenty four hours to go by before a person over eighteen could be reported missing. This was passed into law on April thirty, two thousand three, and called Suzanne's Law. In November, eight months after Suzanne disappeared, her picture was featured along with three other missing students on the Security on Campus website, which is a nonprofit dedicated to fighting for better security procedures on campuses when students go missing, according to the Ithaca Journal, on the one year anniversary of Suzanne's disappearance, the New York State Senate approved a bill requiring all public and private colleges to work out a plan to address reports of missing students and crimes, as well as providing statistics on crimes occurring on campus. They also established a law enforcement agency to lead investigations when jurisdiction is an issue. In January of two thousand, the New York State Campus Security Act was passed into law and set longer sentences for a wide range of misdemeanors and felonies on campuses, including first

18:11 degree assault three years to life and first degree kidnapping fifteen years to life. And in two thousand and seven, the Suzanne Lyle Campus Security Act was passed, which created assault free school zones similar to drug free school zones at various campuses and school grounds. The Lyles also founded the Center for Hope in two thousand and one to provide resources and assistance to families suffering from the same loss and pain that they were. They also implemented a cold case playing card program in New York State and had playing cards printed with various cold cases distributed to fifty seven county jails across the state in the hopes of garnering leads for various cases, including susants. As the years passed, there have been very few suspects in Suzanne's disappearance and little to no evidence to support the idea that these individuals had anything to do with Suzanne's case.

19:11 During the initial investigation, Suzanne's coworkers came forward and allegedly claimed that Suzanne had mentioned a stalker, but she apparently was not all that bothered by it. If this were true, this alleged stalker has never been identified. Some people, including Mary Lyle, believe Richard is responsible for Suzanne's disappearance. Besides the shaky alibi, the main argument for this is his controlling and possessive behavior. Mary claimed that Suzanne attempted to break up with him multiple times, but he always convinced her to stay with him. She also claimed that her daughter always wrote a letter to Richard to break up with him, and that the month before she disappeared, she had dropped off a letter to Richard on the way to visit her grandmother, but no one knows what the contents of this letter were. There's also the fact that Richard did not call the police himself when he couldn't get in contact with Suzanne. He allegedly had remote access to her computer, and he also, after his initial interview with the police, hired a lawyer and refused to take a polygraph. He was also the only other person besides Suzanne who knew what her pin was for her debit guard. Now, I do want to reiterate that Richard had an alibi that police seemed to believe, but from what I can tell, he has never officially been ruled out as a suspect. However, there's no evidence to suggest he was involved in any way.

20:43 In two thousand and five, a man named Joe Reagan was arrested for attempting to abduct a teenage girl at Saratoga Springs High School, very near where Suzanne grew up. He had also been charged with kidnapping in nineteen ninety three in Connecticut. The police were suspicious that Reagan was responsible for Suzanne's disappearance. Joe Reagan allegedly refused to speak to police about her case, and there has been no evidence to prove he was involved. The last suspect or potential suspect is the one and only Israel Keys. Now, this theory is the most interesting because there is at least some circumstantial evidence that supports it. One in nineteen ninety eight, Israel Keys was living about three and a half hours away from the Senior Albany campus. He was living in Constable, New York. He had also at least one time obtained a victim's pin number and used her debit card to withdraw money at an ATM, and he looked for victims in parking lots. Additionally, Suzanne's name came up in NamUs forty five, which was Israel Key's searches of missing people, although we do know that he looked a victim that he had nothing to do with. However, as far as I can tell, there's no solid evidence linking Israel Keys to Suzanne's disappearance. It's just purely circumstantial.

22:14 In twenty fifteen, Doug Lyle passed away without ever having gotten an answer as to what happened to his daughter. But Mary is still fighting, hoping and praying that one day she will get the answers that they have been waiting for. She said, quote every time we went on a conference, everywhere we went, I'd be sitting in that airport looking at every single face, wondering if the next one that's going to walk up is her. I'm still hoping. Now. While the case is considered cold, it is still open and police do believe that Suzanne was a victim of a homicide. There are countless possibilities as to what could have happened the night she disappeared. It's more than possible that someone could still come forward and tell police what happened.

23:04 At the time of her disappearance, Suzanne was nineteen years old, five to three and one hundred and seventy five pounds with light brown, highlighted hair. She has a light brown birthmark on her left calf, a mole on her left cheek behind her ear, and a surgical scar on her foot. She was last seen wearing a long black trench coat, a black shirt, and blue jeans. She was also carrying a black toe bag and may have been wearing jewelry. If anyone out there has any information, please contact your local FBI office or the New York State Police at five one eight four five seven six eight one one.

23:44 It has been over twenty five years since Suzanne Lyles stepped off of that bus and disappeared without a trace, and her family has never stopped looking. They've never stopped hoping, they have never stopped asking what happened to Suzanne. And while in the year since her disappearance, new laws in New York have come about expanding resources and response times for young adults who vanish without explanation, it hasn't brought Suzanne back. It's kept new students safe, but it hasn't brought her back, the tips have dried up, the trail is cold, and still there's someone out there that could know something, because Suzanne deserves answers and her family deserves peace.

24:34 As always, I thank you so much for listening, and I hope you have a wonderful week and I will talk to you again in the next chapter of the Book of the Dead. Bye, guys, Another page closed. But the story isn't over for the families left behind. The pain doesn't end when the headline's fade. And for the victims, we owe them more than silence. For our on solved cases. If you have any information, please reach out to local authorities or visit our show notes for links and resources. Someone out there knows something, Maybe it's you. Thank you for listening to the Book of the Dead. If this story moved or spoke to you in some way, talk about it, share it, keep their names alive. Until next time.

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