Aug. 4, 2026

Chapter 149: The Body in the Garden-The Murder of John Sabine

Chapter 149: The Body in the Garden-The Murder of John Sabine

For nearly two decades, John Sabine was simply gone. His wife, Leigh, had spent years telling elaborate stories about their lives, convincing friends and family that John had left and started over somewhere else. She was a gifted storyteller whose...

Key Takeaways

  • John Sabine was murdered and concealed in a shallow grave in the garden of his former home in Beddau, Wales, by his wife, Leigh Sabine.
  • Despite Leigh telling elaborate stories that John had abandoned her and started over elsewhere, her wild lies caused friends and family to dismiss her eventual confessions as mere tall tales.
  • The chilling truth was finally uncovered in November 2015 when neighbors playing a prank on a suspected medical skeleton in the garden instead discovered a human body wrapped in multiple layers of plastic.
  • Forensic testing and evidence such as discontinued Marks and Spencer pajamas and a Tesco shopping bag dated to 1992 revealed that John Sabine had actually been dead for nearly two decades.
  • Leigh Sabine managed to conceal the heinous crime for almost twenty years until her own death from cancer, leaving behind a legacy of compulsive deception and abandoned children.

For nearly two decades, John Sabine was simply gone.

His wife, Leigh, had spent years telling elaborate stories about their lives, convincing friends and family that John had left and started over somewhere else. She was a gifted storyteller whose lies became more outrageous with time, and few people questioned them. But when Leigh died of cancer in 2015, those stories began to unravel.

After two friends made a horrifying discovery in the garden of the couple's former home in Beddau, Wales, investigators were confronted by a body wrapped in plastic. After 18 years the remains of John Sabine, had been found. As they worked to find out what happened, police revealed years of manipulation, compulsive deception, and the couple's infamous decision to abandon their five young children before John's disappearance. Today, we'll trace the lies that concealed a murder for nearly two decades, examine the evidence that finally exposed the truth behind one woman's carefully constructed fiction.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Who is John Sabine?

John Sabine was a man whose body was discovered wrapped in plastic in a garden in Beddau, Wales, in 2015, nearly 20 years after he was murdered by his wife, Leigh Sabine.

How was John Sabine's body found?

Neighbors in Beddau were attempting to play a practical joke by moving what they thought was a medical skeleton stored in the garden shed when they cut through the plastic and discovered a decomposed body.

Who killed John Sabine?

John Sabine was killed by his wife, Leigh Sabine, who bludgeoned him to death and meticulously wrapped his body in dozens of layers of plastic, tinfoil, and roofing material before hiding it.

Why didn't anyone look for John Sabine for nearly 20 years?

Leigh Sabine was a compulsive storyteller who convinced friends and family that John had left her for someone else, and when she occasionally hinted at the truth, people brushed it off as another one of her tall tales.

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to the next chapter in the Book of the Dead.

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Anyone who knows me, whether you've picked up the svibe

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for me as a longtime listener or you know me

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in real life, knows that I have a thing for

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anything spooky, including the more twisted children's tales and poems.

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I have a small collection of books with this theme,

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stories was a book my grandmother had when I was

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a little girl. The book was called Matilda who told

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dreadful lies. And it was a children's poem written by

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Hilari ba Locke, which first appeared in his nineteen oh

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seven book Cautionary Tales for Children. As you can gather,

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this is a cautionary tale about a little girl named

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Matilda who lied about her house being on fire so

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in the blaze because no one believed her when she

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called for help. This is reminiscent of the more popular

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story of the Boy who Cried Wolf. The reason I

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tell you about this particular story is because the case

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I have for you today involves someone with a pension

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for telling tall tales. In fact, they embellished their life

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and their accomplishments so much that when they confess to

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something truly terrible, the people in their lives simply brushed

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off the confession as just another fairy tale. Because of this,

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a missing man was never looked for, and by the

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time anyone realized what happened, the chance for justice had

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been dashed. This is the murder of John Sebeine. Before

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we jump into the case at hand, to preface this

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by saying two things. One, the bulk of this case

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happens in South Wales, so there will be places that

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I'll have to pronounce that I may not do the

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best job of. But you know, I try very hard

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to say things correctly. If I get anything incorrect. For

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feel free to correct me in my Instagram DMS. The

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second thing is that the last name for this family

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is commonly pronounced as Sabine. However, the family pronounces it

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as Saybine, so I am going to go with that pronunciation.

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This case begins in a quiet village in Betha, which

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is in South Wales. The word Beta means graves in Welsh,

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and according to RC tour Heritage dot com, which is

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all about the Welsh country borough where Beta is called

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Ronta Kunantaff, there's two possibilities as to how Beta got

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its name. Say the village got its name for how

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important it was during the tribal wars, or it could

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be that on the eighteen thirty three Ordnance Survey map,

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four tracks met at what was called krois Heula Betha,

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which translates to Crossroads of the Graves. This was where

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felons were hanged and then buried. While having quite a

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morbid name, the tiny coal village had a slow start

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in development after eighteen sixty, with very few inhabitants outside

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of coal miners making their home there until after nineteen

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o nine. Nowadays, while still small, having a population of

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under seven thousand, Beta is considered a pleasant though rural

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place to live, with a strong sense of community and

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everyone knows everyone. That's not to say it's not without

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its hardships. According to Mary West, a pastor in Beta,

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after the mining factories closed, countless people were left without jobs,

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and many of them turned to drug use. On November

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twenty fourth, twenty fifteen, community officer Gareth Bishop received a

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strange phone call that a dead body had been found

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in the shared garden of Tremacoon Flats. Beda is one

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of those towns where things like this don't happen, So

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when the caller, according to the docuseries about this case,

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called the body next door, said that it was likely

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just some strange garbage, Gareth agreed and said he would

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come by to check it out some time later in

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the day. Now, Police Constable Joy Nichols did not agree.

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In fact, according to her interview, for this series. She said, quote, no,

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we can't just leave this until you have dinner. We

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might have a crime scene. We have to go now.

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It's a good thing they did, because this wasn't just

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a strange looking pile of rubbish. Tucked next to the

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wall of the flats was a roll of plastic and

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what was inside had horrified the women who had found it.

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Rhean Lee and Michelle James, were sitting in the garden

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over a cup of tea when they decided they would

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play a little prank on their neighbor. They knew that

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a friend of theirs who had recently passed, Leanne Sabine,

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had a medical skeleton that she spoke of all the time,

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and it was currently laying in a shed near a

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plotting table in the garden, wrapped up in plastic. According

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to the Guardian, the plan was to take the skeleton

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and place it on the settee. They would then knock

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to get the neighbor to come down and when they

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saw the skeleton they would be spooked. It was supposed

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to be a silly, little prank. Rhean and Michelle lifted

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the skeleton out of the shed and started to cut

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away the layers around it. Surprisingly, this prop wasn't just

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wrapped in plastic though, according to the Washington Post, it

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was also wrapped in layers of tinfoil, plastic bags, and

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roofing material. As more layers were removed, to their horror,

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a foul smelling liquid began to leak out of the wrapping. Nunciated,

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they pulled back the covering a bit more and revealed

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not a medical skeleton, but a partially decomposed body. Michelle

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told the BBC quote, all this sledge came out over

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my hands and I was screaming. I was shouting, it's

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a dead body. It's a dead body. When investigators arrive

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at the scene, they take stements from both women, and

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while Michelle is adamant that what they found was really

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a body, Rheon wasn't totally convinced, So Anne and Gareth

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weren't entirely sure what to make of the situation. So

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Gareth started cutting away the plastic to expose more of

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what this could be, and unbelievably, Michelle was right. There

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was in fact a dead body hidden in plain sight

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in the garden. But now they needed to figure out

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the identity of the decedent as well as what happened

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to them. Prime scene technicians as well as the coroner

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were called to the apartments to begin processing the scene. Now,

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as I said earlier, Beta is a small town and

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it's a safe one case in point, people rarely locked

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their doors. There was no need to. According to Detective

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Chief Inspector of the Major Crime Unit, Gareth Morgan, there

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hadn't up until this point been a murderer in Beta

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in twenty years. This was a huge deal and the

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community was immediately buzzing with rumors as to who the

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decedent was and what had happened to them. Besides identifying

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the victim, the police were trying to figure out how

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the body ended up in the garden. This was a

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communal area belonging to four of the flats and the

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only way to access it was through the communal entrance

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or via a pad bocked gate that you needed a

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key for. Whoever had left the body there likely lived

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in one of the apartments, but in going door to

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door none of the residents can provide any information. The

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body is transported to to the coroner's office and there

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really astounded as to the links someone had gone to

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in an attempt to conceal the body. According to DCI Morgan,

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the body had been wrapped in layers at least forty

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one times and the coroner had to cut through all

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of them to reach the body. Upon revealing him fully,

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the decedent was described as a white male, middle aged

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and around five foot six, with a receding hairline. On

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his hand was a signet ring, and he was wearing

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a pair of marks and spencer's pajamas. Surprisingly, the body

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was in remarkably good condition. The extensive care used to

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conceal the body had triggered a chemical mummification process and

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it had been fairly well preserved. There was no bug activity,

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and the coroner was even able to determine that the

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decedent had consumed a bit of alcohol before his death.

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According to an article for The Herald, it was estimated

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that the man had died a few weeks to a

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few months prior to being discovered, and the cause of

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death was blown forced trauma to the head, as fractures

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to the skull and i were discovered. The body in

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the garden was a homicide victim, as they're attempting to

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make an identification. Investigators take a look again at the

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residence in the four flats connected to this garden. In

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one flat lived a ninety three year old woman who

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rarely left the apartment due to mobility issues, so she

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was not suspected of any involvement. There was a man

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that lived in the second apartment that had moved in

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recently and had some impairments, so he was also quickly cleared.

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The third apartment had up until that October, been occupied

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by a woman in her eighties who had just passed

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of cancer. Since she had been so ill the last

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few months of her life, police had no reason to

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look more closely at her. Finally, the last flat belonged

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to Michelle James, the woman who had found the body.

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Crimes wanted to speak with her more formally. During the

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recorded interview which you can see in the Body next Door,

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Michelle is asked if she knew who placed the body

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in the garden and how she knew it was there.

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She says, Lee said that there was told me and

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Rheon that there was a medical skeleton at the back

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at the side Michelle went on to say that she

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had heard Lie speak about needing the skeleton moved up

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to the attic, and in fact, she was adamant about this,

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and she mentioned it several times before she had died.

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The Lie she was referring to was the woman who

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had lived in the flat above her, Lee Sabine, who

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had died in October after a battle with brain cancer.

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Now police needed to figure out who Lee was and

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if she had anything to do with her homicide. Victim

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investigators went around the town to try and get a

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sense of her, and everyone had stories to tell about

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Lee Sabine. She had shown up in Bethough when she

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was in her sixties, and she loved to be noticed.

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In fact, at her age, she was wearing shorts and

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fishnets with bright red lips that gone, and she loved

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to have her hair done, her makeup done, and her

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nails painted. The residents in the village described her as eccentric,

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larger than life, and very hippyish. Those that knew her

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said of how she'd go on and on about how

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she had been a cabaret singer and she thrived being

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on stage. Most people recalled her waving a cigarette about

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and referring to everyone as darling. She was like a caricature.

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As they asked around, they learned more about Lee's illness.

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She had been diagnosed with the brain cancer and had

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been very sick for about a year prior to her death,

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so investigators had some misgivings about Michelle's statement. Lee, especially

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being in her eighties with terminal cancer, certainly could not

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have been capable of bludgeoning someone to death, let alone

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disposing of the body. There were also parts of Michelle's

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statements that really hadn't made sense either, with her mentioning

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an ex of hers that investigators really didn't know what

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to make of. Because Michelle had made conflicting statements to

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police about when she had allegedly learned of the body,

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as well as making an ill perceived joke about cooking

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her ex and a stew they ultimately decided to arrest

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her on suspicion of murder. However, two days after her arrest,

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after completely searching her flat, going over a week's worth

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of CCTV, and tracking down her ex, who was alive

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and well, Michelle was released from police custody after nothing

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at all was found to connect her to the body.

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With Michelle being released, police really had nothing to go on.

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So these circles back to lie Saybine, as she was

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the one who had really taken charge of revitalizing the

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communal garden that had been so neglected when she had

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moved in almost twenty years prior. The only thing investigators

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could find out for sure about her was that, according

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to what she had said in a feature about the garden,

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she had moved to Betha from New Zealand. As investigators

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asked about Lee more and more, they kept getting different stories.

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Lee was a singer, she was a dancer, a nurse,

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a dog breeder. She had apparently been a substance abuse counselor.

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No one knew for sure what she had really done,

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and no one knew for sure where she was from.

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Her accent, according to neighbors, was so strange, like she

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was trying to speak very poorly with an accent that

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she didn't actually have. Then, in speaking with Rian and

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Lee's caretaker, Lynn Williams, they both told how Lee would

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constantly talk about this medical skeleton. She was always asking

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Lynn to move it and had even asked Rian's son

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to put it in the attic but no one ever did.

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According to BBC, at one point, Lynn said quote, we

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were sitting around the table having a cup of tea

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and she mentioned the skeleton again and I said, well,

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I hope it's not a bleeding real one, and she went,

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you never know. Lynn. Then Lynn mentioned the police that

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Lee had at one point mentioned an ex husband named

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John say Vine. Detective CID Matthew Phillips spoke with Mary West,

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who had also known Lee and had been the one

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to register her death, and Mary said that she had

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found a passport for John Saybine and Lee's flat, but

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no one in the area had really known him, nor

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had they met him. In doing some digging, investigators found

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a tendency agreement dated February nineteenth, nineteen ninety seven, and

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it was signed by John and Anne Sabine. As police

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started following what was appearing to be a strong lead,

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they started asking around about Lee's husband and neighbor and friends.

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All said that Lee said he had left her. Some

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said they had been told he cheated on her. Others

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said that they had heard he was abusive, but the

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general consensus was that Lee never seemed particularly torn up

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about the breakdown of her marriage. Just when investigators believed

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that the body in the garden maybe John Sabine, Mary

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West found a death certificate for a John H. Sabine

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born in London in nineteen twenty nine, with his death

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being listed as two thousand and one. Even though the

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death certificate strongly suggested the body found was not John Sabine,

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Welsh police were still operating under the suspicion that it

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could be. As it continued to look into Lee, forensic

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analysts processed all fourteen layers that had been used to

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wrap conceal the body in the hopes that they would

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find fingerprints or any other trace belonging to their killer.

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They meticulously went over every inch of the wrappings over

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and over again for weeks, cataloging everything. Finally, on a

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piece of tape on one of the layers, they found

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what was believed to be a fingerprint that was sent

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out for further analysis. Unfortunately, this turned out to not

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be a fingerprint at all, but rather a mix of

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fluid from the body and the adhesive from the tape.

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Though this was a dead end, the analysts were undeterred

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and went back to the wrappings, this time finding a

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strand of hair Upon testing, this hair was not a

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match to the victim, but now they had to find

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out who it belonged to. This hair was compared to

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blood samples that had been saved from Lee's time in

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palliative care, and it came back as a match. The

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police had a suspect in Lise Mine, but they couldn't

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question her. Not only did they now have a suspect

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that had died two months prior, they still had an

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idea I unified the body. Investigators take a closer look

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at the evidence they have since a second look at

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the apartment turned out nothing new. It had been thoroughly

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cleaned after Lee's death, and her belongings had been discarded

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or distributed amongst her friends. As the wrappings are once

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again examined, DC Ibrooks notices that one of the things

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used to conceal the body is a bag from Tesco.

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This particular bag had a barcode which dated it as

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being from nineteen ninety two. This is the first indication

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that maybe police had the timeline all wrong. While common

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for people to hold onto plastic shopping bags, the chances

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of one being kept for over twenty years is slim.

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The second indication that maybe this murder had happened a

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much greater time ago than originally thought. Was the pajamas

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the victim was wearing. In speaking with the company that

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manufactured them, Marks and Spencer, investigators are told that this

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particular line was discontinued in the early nineties. Again, not

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unheard of for someone to hold on to and where

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clothing that old, But what could really be the chances?

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So police really start to dig into the life of

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Leanne Saybine and her husband John Lee. Sabine, according to

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her daughter Jane was a selfish, heartless bitch, and I

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think that's a fair assessment, as much as people seem

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to be rather fond of Lee and her eccentricities in

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Betha in Auckland, where she was living prior, she was

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one half of a couple that had abandoned their five

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children to run off and become famous. Lee, whose real

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name was Anne Lee Evans, grew up in the mining

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valley of Rontha, and while very little is known about

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her childhood, it seems things were tumultuous for her, and

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she spent much of her early life years in the

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care of relatives. After being abandoned at the age of three.

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It speculated that her upbringing contributed to her urge to

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become famous, or at least pretend to be, so that

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she could emulate the lives she wanted rather than the

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one that she had. Lee went on to become a nurse,

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which is how she met a man named John Saybine.

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He had been injured in the Korean War and Lee

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was the one to take care of him. They fell

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in love. Lee was seventeen and John eleven years her senior,

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and according to an article for Wales Online, they got

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married in nineteen sixty and had four children, two boys

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and two girls. The family, John and Lee and their children,

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the oldest daughter, Stephen, Martin and Jane then moved to

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Australia where they had a fifth child, a daughter named

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Lee Anne, before later moving to New Zealand. At first,

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the Sabine children seemed to have a relatively normal childhood.

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Jane Sabine recalled going for walks with her father and Steve,

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her brother, remembered growing up near creeks and being taught

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how to swim. He also remembered, though being only about six,

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when Lee desperately wanted to be a cabaret singer, and

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the Sabines would bring the children to a few of

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the gigs she would book, sitting them backstage while she performed.

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While this was something that Lee desperately wanted to be

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a famous cabaret singer, one of the problems she would

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likely have faced was that, besides not being particularly good

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at singing, according to her son, was that in the

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nineteen sixties, cabaret was dying out. As music evolved and

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television became popular. Going out to hear live music was

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just not something people were interested in doing, and many

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smaller club venues struggled to stay open as a result.

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While cabaret would have a resurgence in the seventies, it

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was different than the cabaret that those had experienced it

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in its prime were used to on. Deterred by the

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waivering cabaret scene, Lee was to hermans to make it big,

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and that led to a decision that the average person

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would find despicable. Steve recalled being six or seven years

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old in February of nineteen sixty nine when his parents

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packed up their children into a taxi. He told Wales

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Online quote they dropped us off somewhere and never came back.

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To pick us up. They said they were going to

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come back the next weekend. Lee and John Sabine had

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abandoned their children, aged just over a year to eleven,

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and vanished. According to the Body next Door, the Sabine

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had taken their children to a day care facility in

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Auckland and Steve would look out the window every day

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watching for them to come back. But they never did

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and their children were left in the care of New

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Zealand Social Services, wondering why their parents had left them

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and what they had possibly done wrong to upset them

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so much. These children were heartbroken and authorities in New

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Zealand launched a man hunt to find Lee and John.

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This was a case of child's abandonment that they had

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never quite seen before, and they spent months looking all

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over the country and in Australia to hold the couple accountable. Then,

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eighteen months after leaving their children behind, a woman named

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Lee Jones was found working in a nightclub in Perth,

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and she was identified as Lee Ane Sabine, who had

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been traveling around with her husband using different aliases. According

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to an article for Press, Lee and John claimed to

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have abandoned their children, who they had never even written

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to out of necessity. Lee said, quote, we haven't had

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a break since we left them. We came away to

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save enough money to buy a house and give our

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kids a good life. But who in the lousy world

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is going to believe us now? I have regretted leaving

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them so many times. I even regret having started as

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a singer. John himself claimed that Lee never even wanted

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to work when they first moved to New Zealand, but

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the moment people heard who was a singer, they just

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hounded her until she agreed. According to Lee, what was

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preventing them from returning home to their children was the

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fact that they owed two thousand dollars to the nursery

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in New Zealand. Quote, I just couldn't go home and

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be kept away from my kids because we didn't have

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the money to support them. While Lee and John may

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have insisted that they had been attempting to return to

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their children over the last eighteen months they had been gone,

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that really didn't seem to be the case. Parents that

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desperately missed their children don't travel around under assumed names

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for over a year trying to make it as a

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cabaret singer. They seemed more concerned with getting Lee's name

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in lights, though they weren't very successful, than they were

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with trying to take care of the five children they

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had callously left behind. In fact, though the Sabines insisted

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to the press that they were trying to get home,

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they didn't return and their children were bounced from home

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to home for years. The only sign of Lee and

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John came from a letter sent to the Auckland District

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Child Welfare officer kJ Flint two months after they had

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been found in Perth, but what the letter said is unknown.

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Leanne said that she had lost count of how many

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homes she had been to, and Steve told producers for

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The Body next Door that he recalled asking a foster

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parent when his parents would be coming to get him,

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and he, a child at the time, was cruelly told

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that his parents didn't want him. These poor children had

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to grow up without love and be subjected to abuse psychologically,

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physically and sexually at the hands of their foster parents.

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In nineteen eighty four, fifteen years after their parents left

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them behind, the stay by children were struggling to rebuild

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their lives after aging out of the system. This, of

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course meant that the siblings were separated a fair amount

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of time as they tried to navigate a world that

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they were ill equipped for. One of the siblings that

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seemed to struggle was Martin Sebeine. He just really seemed

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to grapple with the idea that he wasn't good, which

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stemmed from the terrible things he was subjected to and

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not actually rooted in reality. According to his girlfriend at

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the time, Jodine Harris, that year, Martin had received a

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call from Lee. Steve, who was living in a half

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way house at the time, also received a call, but

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from their father. The two told their sons how they

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were too scared of the public backlash in the media

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to return, but now they wanted to be a real

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family again. Lee and John had moved back to New

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Zealand and they invited their kids to come and live

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with them as well, first with Steve, then Martin, then

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the girls, and according to Jane, Martin was just so

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excited to have his family back together. He was really

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just over the moon, which really makes the whole situation

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after all the more harp. At first, things were great.

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Lee was an attentive mother, though very over the top,

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preparing home cooked meals with a cigarette in one hand

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and a wine glass in the other. But after a

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few short weeks things changed and the illusion of family

443
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:21.240
coming back together to rebuild their relationship quickly shattered. As

444
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their children tried to explain the nightmares they had endured

445
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in the years Lee and John were gone and get

446
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answers as to why they had been abandoned in the

447
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first place. Lee and John really couldn't be bothered to listen,

448
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.400
Jane said. Lee dismissed her completely and told her that

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she's did and oh her children an explanation. Jane, angry

450
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.160
couldn't accept that rightfully so and when she pressed for answers,

451
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she was kicked out of the home, with her younger

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00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.759
sister Lianne quickly following. So Jane went to the media

453
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.920
and stirred up a storm. Film crews came out to

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the house with Leanne and Jane, and things escalated very quickly.

455
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Jane at some point during this confrontation with the media,

456
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.400
punched her mother and was arrested for assault, though this

457
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:13.359
charge was ultimately dropped. According to an Auckland's newspaper article, Jane,

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00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.920
upon being released after her arrest, wrote a scathing letter

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00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.079
to the press about her parents and how she and

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00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.920
her siblings had been abandoned, calling for charges to be

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00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.920
brought up against them for child abandonment. This angered Martin

462
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.680
and Steve, who just wanted things to go back to normal,

463
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so they did an interview attempting to clear Lee in

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John's names, or at the very least explain how ashamed

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their parents were and how everyone just wanted to move

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00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.880
forward with their lives. This interview in the letter from

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Jane initiated a circus from the press and the public

468
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.839
somewhere out for blood, demanding Lee and John be charged,

469
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.759
though they never would be and others thought they should

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00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:59.079
be left alone. Furious, Lee publicly announced she was not

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the mother of the siblings, and she and John once

472
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.319
again disappeared, leaving Steve and Martin, who had tried so

473
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.559
hard to vouch for their parents behind. Lee was all

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about self preservation and she was not about to have

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00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:19.599
her reputation marred any further. His parents leaving him again, though,

476
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.680
broke Martin's heart. He disappeared, presumably trying to find his

477
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.880
parents again, and he would ultimately move in with them

478
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.599
and his girlfriend, Jodine. In the UK. However, while things

479
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:36.079
seemed great, Lee once again stirred the pot, this time

480
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.039
kicking Al Martin and Jodine for presumably no other reason

481
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.839
besides she felt like it, and Martin was never the

482
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:47.359
same again. After seeing for himself how cruel his mother

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00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.599
could be, Martin would take his own life in two thousand.

484
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While it's difficult to ascertain where the Sabines were after

485
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.160
nineteen eighty four, they eventually showed up in Betha in

486
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.319
February nineteen ninety seven. While a handful of people could

487
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.160
confirm that they had briefly met Sean and a doctor

488
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.799
had documented a visit with him in April of that year,

489
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:12.039
after that, it was like he had just vanished. Lee,

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00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.920
as mentioned earlier, seemed unperturbed by John's disappearance, and she

491
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.319
had a different story to tell anyone that asked. And Betha,

492
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.119
he abandoned her, He ran off with another woman. He

493
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.920
left her after abusing her. To her daughters. She called

494
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:29.240
Jane and said that he had died of various medical complications,

495
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.799
but she never loved him anyway. Either way, John was

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00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.920
gone and Lee really didn't seem to care. Now that

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00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.480
investigators had managed to trace the Sabines movements prior to

498
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.799
coming to Betha. They once again looked over everything they had,

499
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.359
hoping that something would catch their eye that they may

500
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.839
have missed the first time. One of the things they

501
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:55.200
look into again is the death certificate found by Mary West.

502
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.839
At first glance, it seems concrete that Lee's husband died

503
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.400
in two thousand and one, but then they take a

504
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.039
closer look and realized that this John Saybine, was born

505
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.480
in nineteen twenty nine. Lee Saybeine's husband was born in

506
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:14.119
nineteen thirty. This death certificate was for a different man

507
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.799
that happened to have the same name as the man

508
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:22.599
investigators were looking for. It was becoming more and more

509
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.839
likely the body found in the garden was John Saybine. However,

510
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.200
police still needed a way to identify the victim, so

511
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.920
they reached out to Steve Saybein about obtaining his DNA. However,

512
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.640
before he could provide it, police found that John had

513
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.000
two children from a previous marriage, Chris and Teresa, whom

514
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.359
he had apparently abandoned after leaving for the military when

515
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.519
his children were under three. Chris told the body next

516
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.839
door that his father's affair with Lee when she took

517
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.079
care of him during the war, had resulted in a

518
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:59.039
pregnancy and the collapse of his parents' marriage. Chris was

519
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.960
living in Warwickshire and submitted a DNA sample to be

520
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:06.759
compared with the victims, and they got a match. In

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00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.960
December of twenty fifteen, according to the Glasgow edition of

522
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.480
the Herald, South Wales, police confirmed that the body found

523
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.920
in Baylo was John Sabine, who had disappeared in nineteen

524
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.759
ninety seven and had likely been mortally assaulted. At that time,

525
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.319
the prime suspect was announced as being his wife Lee.

526
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.079
Dcibrooks appealed to the public asking for potential witnesses to

527
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.640
come forward with any information that could assist in the investigation,

528
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.839
as police, while they had a suspect and they had

529
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:41.079
identified the victim, still needed to find out what had happened.

530
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.559
The most telling tip they got was from a woman

531
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.880
named Valerie Chalkley, who was a friend of the Sabines

532
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.559
when they had lived in Reading back in nineteen eighty four.

533
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.319
According to an interview Valerie gave to BBC in nineteen

534
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.640
ninety seven, after not having spoken to Lee or John

535
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:03.720
in over a decade, Lee calls her out of the blue. Valerie,

536
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.200
as they're catching up, asks how John is doing, and

537
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.519
Li says, quote, I've killed him. I battered him with

538
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.839
the stone frog. He was getting on my nerves now

539
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:17.799
because Lee was always telling exaggerated stories. Valerie brushed her off.

540
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:22.559
But given the circumstances, maybe Lee hadn't been making it up.

541
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.880
Maybe she really had bludgeoned her husband. Originally, investigators are

542
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.400
concerned that the chances of finding the stone frog were

543
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.920
slim since the murder had occurred so long ago, but

544
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.079
in speaking again with friends and neighbors, community officer Gareth

545
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.400
Brooks were called seeing a stone frog in Lee's flat

546
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.559
being used as a door stop at one point, so

547
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.640
he and another officer went to the flats on Tremoncoon

548
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.640
to talk to the neighbors. The first person they talked

549
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.799
to is Michelle James, who tells them that she had

550
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.119
taken some things from the flat when they were clearing

551
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.000
it out and had them in a box in the kids.

552
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:07.599
In that box was an ornamental stone frog. In disbelief,

553
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.519
the pathologists scanned in overlaid images of the frog and

554
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.880
the skull fracture, ultimately concluding that the stone frog was

555
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.559
likely the murder weapon. It matched the wound pattern completely.

556
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.440
Lee Saybein had indeed bludgeoned her husband to death and

557
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:30.239
concealed his body for eighteen years. Unfortunately, due to her death,

558
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.519
the circumstances that led to the murder would never be

559
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.960
discovered and she would never be brought to justice. Since

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00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.719
no reports of domestic violence against Lee or John were

561
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.039
ever made, it was unlikely that the murder was in

562
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:46.760
self defense. Friends, family, and the police all had different

563
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.719
theories as to what happened. John and Lee's children speculated

564
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.719
that John felt guilty about abandoning them, based on how

565
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.199
they had seen him cry when the media tobaccle happened.

566
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.400
Jane had also recalled her father telling her when she

567
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.639
was kicked out that he loved her. Chris and Theresa,

568
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.360
when they had briefly reconnected with their father, said they

569
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.840
recalled that John seemed to want to have a relationship

570
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.519
with them, but constantly bent to what Lee wanted. She

571
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.760
was in control and seemed furious when John tried to

572
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.880
go against her wishes. Most people believed that John had

573
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.360
angered her in some way and where she was sick

574
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.039
of hearing him talk about wanting to reconnect with the children,

575
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.679
and she killed him for it. Either way, Lee managed

576
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.239
to get away with what she had done, spinning tales

577
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.679
of a glamorous life and a husband who had left

578
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.360
her getting exactly what she wanted. In the end, she

579
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.639
told her friends in Betha that she'd be famous one

580
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:41.679
day even if that happened after her death, and she

581
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.480
got her wish. No one that knew her will ever

582
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.079
forget her, but they won't remember her for how she

583
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.760
wanted to be perceived as a star, but rather as

584
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.920
a cruel, selfish woman who threw away anyone that did

585
00:35:56.039 --> 00:36:00.559
insurp their purpose to her. Thank you so much for

586
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.400
listening to this episode, and as always, I hope you

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00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.400
have a wonderful week and I will see you in

588
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.519
the next chapter of the Book of the Dead. Bye, guys.

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00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.039
Another page closed, But the story isn't over. For the

590
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.800
families left behind. The pain doesn't end when the headline stayed.

591
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:27.480
And for the victims, we owe them more than silence.

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For our on solved cases. If you have any information,

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00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.159
please reach out to local authorities or visit our show

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00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.960
notes for links and resources. Someone out there knows something,

595
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.280
maybe it's you. Thank you for listening to the Book

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00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.360
of the Dead. If this story moved or spoke to

597
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:52.199
you in some way, talk about it, share it, keep

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00:36:52.239 --> 00:37:00.000
their names alive. Until next time, I'm Courtney Liso. Stay safe,

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00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.320
stay curious, and stay vigilant, and remember the dead may

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00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.679
be gone, but their stories will not be forgotten.