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Every story has a beginning, but not everyone has an ending.
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In the shadows of headlines and buried police reports lay
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the voices of the missing, the murdered, and the forgotten,
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waiting to be heard and have their stories told. This
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is The Book of the Dead, a true crime podcast
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where we remember forgotten victims of heinous crimes, reopen cold cases,
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re visit haunting disappearances, and uncover the truths buried beneath
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the years of silence. I'm your host, Courtney Liso, and
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every week we turn to another chapter, one victim, one mystery,
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one step closer to justice. Brought to you by Darkast
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Network in Deep Podcasts with the Twist. Hello, Hello, Welcome
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to the next chapter. In the Book of the Dead.
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There is a quote that many people believe comes from
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the Bible, but was in fact written by English playwright
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William Congreve in nineteen sixty seven in his tragedy The
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Mourning Bride, and it says quote Heaven has no rage
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like love to hatre returned, nor hell a fury like
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a woman scorned. This is popular lead misquoted as being
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. And this
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quote has a very plain meeting. Right, Nothing in heaven
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or hell is more formidable than a woman's slighted in love.
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This is something that some people take very seriously. You
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hear story ra all the time of women who have
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gotten revenge on an ax, and to be clear, men
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do the same thing. It's not just women, but some
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out there have gone to great lengths to get back
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at a former lover, even if that means involving the
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person that came after. And we've covered at least one
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case where a scorned woman took things to extremes and
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it ended in murder, like in the case of Sharirasmussen.
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This is another case where a woman decided she wouldn't
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let another get in the way of a relationship or
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the man that she wanted. This is the case of
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Liz Golier and Carrie Farber. In twenty twelve, a man
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named Dave Krupa moved to Omaha, Nebraska at thirty five
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years old. He and the mother of his children, Amy Flora,
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had broken up and she was relocating back home to
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count Nil Bluffs, so he agreed to move as well
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so that he could be closer to his children. He
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got a job managing an auto repair shop, but he
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was pretty lonely. He had been in a relationship for
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over a decade, so to suddenly be alone it was
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disorienting for him. He was single and looking for fun,
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not necessarily a relationship. But according to ABC News, he
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didn't really know where to start looking for a date. Quote,
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I didn't know how to venture back into the dating pool.
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I felt pretty rusty. So internet dating was the way
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to go. So in the summer of twenty twelve, Dave
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joins plenty of Fish to see if there was anyone
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out there that he might potentially be interested in. Of course,
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online dating in and of itself can be quite intimidating
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or even scary, depending on the person. While there are
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countless people looking for real connections, hookups, and relationships, that
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doesn't mean that there aren't bad people lurking in the shadows.
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But n as Dave told author Leslie Ruhl for her
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book about this case, A Tangled Web, he wasn't too concerned. Quote,
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I don't think of myself as really badass, but I'm
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not going to hide under a rock. You do what
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you do and hopefully turns out all right. And as
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a former member of the National Guard. In ordinary circumstances,
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maybe Dave really wouldn't have had anything to worry about,
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But the danger in this particular case was a different
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kind of concern than he ever could have expected. According
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to a Tangled Web, while Dave wanted something more casual,
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he wasn't one for a one night stand. He wanted
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something a little bit more meaningful than that, According to
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one of the many documentaries about this case called Lover
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stock Er Killer, Relatively soon after making his dating profile,
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he was matched with a thirty four year old woman
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named Shanna Elizabeth Golier who went by Liz, and Dave
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foundly had a lot in common. They enjoyed the same
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type of music and motorcycles. They both had children. Dave
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told ABC quote, I thought Liz was very pretty. I
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was attracted to her right away, so then we set
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up a date. The two met up and they ended
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up having a really good time together. Dave described her
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as smiley and full of life, and the two moved fast.
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As I said, Dave was looking to have fun and
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Liz was willing to oblige. They saw each other frequently,
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and Dave spoke of there for lack of a better term,
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relationship as being just what he needed at that time
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in his life. Liz was someone he could up fun with,
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but he wasn't tied down with a serious commitment, especially
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so soon after his breakup. This was just something fun
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for the both of them. After a few weeks, though,
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Dave started losing a bit of the interest he had
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in Liz. According to a Tangled Web well, the sex
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was great and Liz was clearly very into him. There
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was no substance to any of their conversations. Liz wasn't
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a stupid woman by any means, but Dave was a
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very intelligent guy and enjoyed having intellectual conversations, something he
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couldn't do with Liz. It was a purely physical arrangement,
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and while it was fine, he wanted more of a challenge.
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Besides the fact that Liz, who had previously been clear
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that she didn't have time for a relationship, was starting
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to get very clingy. She was always around. Dave expressed
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to Liz that while he liked spending time with her,
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he was not her boyfriend and he had no intentions
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of ever being monogamous with her. He made it clear
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that she could stick around if she wanted to, but
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he was not committed to her. He wanted to see
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what else was out there, so he got back on
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plenty of Fish and started looking around. And things were
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going well for Dave, at least in terms of getting matches.
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He was confident and attractive, and women were naturally drawn
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to that sort of thing. As the weeks passed by,
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Dave met with some of his matches, usually for coffee,
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and he tried to make a connection with at least
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one of them. However, Liz was still around, coming by
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for sex when she knew he had a date planned
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for later that night. After a few times at this
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going on, Dave urged Liz to date other men to
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stop waiting for him to change his mind, because that
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simply wasn't going to happen. Then Dave met thirty seven
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year old Carrie Farver about four months later when she
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brought her Ford Explorer into his workplace to be serviced.
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Dave told ABC that not only did he find Carrie
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to be beautiful, but they also had an instant connection.
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Quote when we looked at each other, there was a
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little spark. She's showing me something inside the vehicle, and
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we're standing there and were very close and there was
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some tension, but when the job was done, she left
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and Dave figured he'd never see her again. Coincidentally, a
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few weeks later, he sees her profile on Plenty of
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Fish and he sends her a message. They hit it
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off and they planned to go out on a date.
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Dave said, quote her spirit and her drive marked her
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out from the women I had met. She was smart
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and sexy. At the time the two met, Carrie was
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living in Macedonia, Iowa, with her son, who was in
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high school, and her friends and family described her as
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vivacious and warm, as well as a devoted mother. A
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friend of Carrie's, Amy Long, told ABC quote, you noticed
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Carrie when she walked in the room. She had a lap,
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she had a smile, She lit up a room. You
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couldn't help but notice her. You were drawn to her.
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In the past, Carrie did struggle with her mental health.
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Her mother and Nancy Rainey said she had been diagnosed
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with depression and later bipolar disorder in her twenties, and
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that she would occasionally stop taking the medication to manage
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it as they made her feel numb. However, Nancy said
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that by twenty twelve, her daughter had been doing well
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and was in a really great place in her life.
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Carrie was working as a computer programmer in Omaha, which
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was an hour away from her home, and she was
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open with Dave about her life being a young mom
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and the work that she did, and Dave was enthralled
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by her, as interested in Carrie as he was, though
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he still had Liz to contend with, who had managed
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to convince Dave after weeks of asking to be exclusive
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with her for a month long trial relationship in the
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hopes that he would change his mind about being monogamous.
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While the month was almost up and Dave was still
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not interested, Liz was doing her best to worm her
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way into his heart. On the day of their first date,
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Dave and Carrie went to dinner and they had a
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really great time. She laughed at his jokes. They had
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the intellectually stimulating conversations. Dave had been looking poor, and
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after dinner he invited Carrie back to his apartment to
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play cards. However, mere moments after they walked in the door,
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the buzzer rang outside, asking to come in to get
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something she had left. There was Liz Golier. Dave awkwardly
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explained the situation to Carrie before letting Liz come up,
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and Carrie ultimately decided it was probably better if she left,
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but she told Dave to call her when Liz had
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finished grabbing what she needed. Taking the potential drama in stride,
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the two women had a brief moment of eye contact
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as they passed each other in the stairwell. Dave said
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it was seconds worth, and Carrie exited the building, got
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into her car, and headed home. After she got what
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she needed, Liz was asked to leave, which she did,
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but not before trying to start a fight with Dave
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and crying to convince him to forget about his date.
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After she leapt, Dave called Carrie, who invited him to
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her place in Macedonia, where he ended up spending the night.
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Over the next two weeks, Carrie and Dave continued to
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hang out and things were going as perfect as they
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could get. They saw each other frequently, and Dave was
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continuously impressed by Carrie. Not only was she wildly intelligent,
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but she was fun to be around. Even though things
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were going so well, though Liz was still on the sidelines,
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not giving up on a potential relationship with Dave. Emailing
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him often and asking for a chance to go out,
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even if it was just as friends. In November of
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twenty twelve, Carrie has a big project to work on
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and Dave offers her to spend the week at his
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apartment to make the commute easier for her, as he
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lives so close to her office and her house was
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close to an hour away according to court records. Carrie
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agreed and made arrangements for her son to spend the
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week with her mother and stepfather while she was away.
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While this sounds like a big deal for some, like
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with Liz, Dave was clear with Carrie that he wasn't
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looking for a serious relationship, and she told him she
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felt the same. She liked being around him, but after
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some rough, emotionally trying relationships, she wasn't really looking to
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jump into something exclusive, and Dave was thrilled that they
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were both completely on the same page. Soon after this conversation, though,
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things changed dramatically. On November thirteenth, twenty twelve, Carrie was
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still staying at Dave's apartment again. They had been seeing
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each other for two weeks and they had a good
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thing going. Dave wakes up gets ready for work, and
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he kisses Carrie, who is still in bed, goodbye before
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leaving at around six am. A few hours later, Dave
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gets a text from Carrie and need loves to say
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he's confused because she's talking about moving in with him.
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As I mentioned, Dave had been clear from the get
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go that he wasn't looking for anything serious, and Carrie
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had not only agreed, but was I admitt that she
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felt the same way. Dave did admit in an interview
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with Dateline that while they had only known each other
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for a short time, things were going so well that
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he was reconsidering his no commitment rule, but it was
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definitely too soon for something as serious as moving in together.
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Dave responds that he's not interested in having her move in,
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besides the fact that while things had moved pretty quickly
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regarding the more physical aspects of the relationship, they still
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had only been seeing each other for two weeks. At
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this rejection, Dave's phone is inundated with profanity lace messages
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quote fine, fuck you, I hate you, I'm dating someone else,
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I don't want to see you anymore. Go away. At
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this Dave isn't sure what to think this whole situation
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was completely out of left field, but he doesn't answer,
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instead going about his workday. When he returns home on
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his lunch break a few hours later, Carrie is gone,
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and while he is a bit bummed out, that seems
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to be the end of it and he has clearly
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dodged a bullet. After a few days of silence, Dave
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starts getting messages from Carrie again, and they're concerning one
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of them read quote, You're a bastard. I'm going to
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destroy the things you care about. The messages increase in frequency,
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and Carrie seems insistent on making it abundantly clear that
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Dave had wronged her and she was going to ruin
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his life over it. At the same time, Carrie's mother, Nancy,
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is having a hard time getting hold of her. While
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she admits in Netflix's lover Stocker Killer that like many
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mother and daughter relationships, they had their problems, Carrie was
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usually very good at answering Nancy. In fact, the two
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typically spoke nearly every day, so the sudden radio silence
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was off put it even more so, though, is a
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text from Carrie announcing that she has taken a new
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job in Kansas, which Nancy received on Nova thirteenth, the
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very same day that Dave received his first strange message.
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After more of Nancy's texts go unanswered and Carrie fails
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to pick up her son to attend a family wedding
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on November fifteenth, as well as missing the baby shower
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she had planned for a good friend of hers, Nancy
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reports her daughter missing. She also informs the police of
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her daughter's bipolar diagnosis, and she lets them know that
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Carrie had mentioned she had been dating a man named
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Dave Krupa. The police visit Dave at his job, explaining
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that Carrie seemed to be missing, but Dave shows them
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the text messages that he had been receiving. She's not missing,
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She's fine if she's sending these texts. The officers agree,
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and they, according to Dave, reassure him that the texts
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are likely to stop soon. She's clearly disgruntled, but they
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claim that things like this usually don't last very long.
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On November nineteenth, Carrie's missing person's case is assigned to
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Potawatame County Deputy Sheriff Randall Phillip he In Corporal Ron
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Ambrose review the meager file and speak to Carrie's co
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workers According to a tangled web, they had last seen
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Carrie on the evening of November twelfth. As they had
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left the building. They spoke to her and noticed nothing
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amiss as they got in their cars. Carrie had even
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said she would see them in the morning, but she
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hadn't showed the next day, which was odd. Carrie was
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known for being incredibly reliable, and in fact, she had
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been working on something important for work and would never
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abandon it without notifying somebody or without cause. Days after
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she missed work and her superiors couldn't get a hold
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of her, Carrie's supervisor received a letter of resignation from her,
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stating that she had taken a new position at a
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company in Kansas. After the police determined that her daughter
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seems to be fine, Nancy starts getting messages from Carrie
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on Facebook. Carrie says she's okay, she just needed some
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space and she'd come back soon. But then the messages
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changed tone and Carrie accuses her mother of being a
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bad parent and of being controlling. According to ABC, Nancy
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noticed that many of her daughter's messages contained spelling and
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punctuation errors, something that Carrie was a stickler about. But
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the Potawatame police seemed unconcerned. Nancy had admitted to them
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that Carrie had stopped taking her medication before, and this
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behavior seemed to reflect that she might have stopped taking
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it once again. According to the Omaha World Harold, some
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of the messages were wildly out of character for Carrie.
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Nancy has sent a picture of a five thousand dollars
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check for bedroom furniture with a request to let a
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woman in to pick up this furniture. This is important
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and we'll come back to it later on. But Nancy
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refused unless Carrie called her, and the text turned more belligerent.
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Nancy told the Omaha World Harold quote, all of this
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was so bizarre and so oh online. Carrie, she would
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have come and talked to me. She wouldn't have just
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threatened all of the stuff over her text. Even more concerned,
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Nancy informs the police of the messages, and they continue
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to try and track her down. Nancy and Dave were
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not the only ones getting strange text messages, though. While
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it had been a while since he had last seen
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Liz Gullier, one night, she showed up at his door
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very upset because her car had been keyed This wasn't
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superficial damage either. It was a deep gouge along the
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length of her car. Liz also tells Dave that she
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had been receiving similar text messages from Carrie, saying that
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she would continue to make things difficult for her. Liz
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and Dave were concerned that the behavior would escalate and
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one of them would end up seriously hurt. Carrie had
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clearly become obsessed with Dave, and he didn't know what
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to do to stop what was happening. As the weeks passed,
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the emails and text messages increased in frequency, with Liz
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and Dave reports did they receiving thirty to forty texts
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in upwards up one hundred emails a day, all coming
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from different accounts. But he knew Carrie was behind the messages.
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Dave said, quote, I knew it was all Carrie because
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the verbiage was all the same. As the messages continued
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to flood in, with Carrie saying things like quote, you
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still want me? I know you do. I will take
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over your life and I don't know what I saw
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on you. The messages had also evolved into statements telling
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Dave that he was being watched he'd received texts and
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emails while he was at work describing the customers he
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was speaking to, and other messages told of how he
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was being watched at home through his window as he
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sat watching TV. Liz was being watched as well. Because
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when Dave and Liz were together their romance rekindling due
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to the drama connecting them, their phones would go off simultaneously.
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Dave told People magazine quote, We'd be hanging out on
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a Saturday and both our emails would be blowing up
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at the same time. In late November of twenty twelve,
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the escalating behavior that Dave and Liz worried about finally happened.
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Dave had received photos of Carrie from the inside of
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Liz's home, and he raced over in a panic to
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find that while Liz was ultimately safe, her garage had
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been broken into and vandalized, the words quote whore from
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Dave's spray painted onto the wall. Dave told lover Stocker
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Killer that he felt responsible for the attacks against Liz
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because she was an innocent bystander in all of this.
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This incident was reported to the police, as well as
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the messages from Carrie saying she was watching him at work.
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Of course, now the police are concerned as this behavior
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is inching closer and closer to violence, but they don't
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know where Carrie is. Sergeant Chris Lgrow of the Omaha
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Police Department Special Victims Unit specializing in domestic violence and stalking,
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spoke in the documentary how the messages that Dave continued
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to receive while he was working implied that Carrie was
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at the auto body shop, but even with the police
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watching the building, they couldn't find her. They looked everywhere,
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doing a reverse stakeout to try and find out where
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she was watching from. Sergeant Lagroux went door to door
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with Carrie's picture as well, but no one recognized her.
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While Carrie was still actively sending texts and emails to people,
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no one had seen her in weeks. Soon she had
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missed her birthday, her son's birthday, as well as the
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death of her father that December and his funeral events
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and tragedies that she should have been there for. In
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January of twenty thirteen, after no sign of Carrie in
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two months, a new Facebook of hers popped up. The
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profile picture was of Carrie and her late dad. Oddly enough,
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according to the Omaha World Herald. One of the first
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posts made on this account was a photo of a
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hand wearing an engagement ring. The supposed fiance was Dave Krupa,
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according to what Carrie had posted. Nancy informed the police,
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and Sergeant Jason, the Master of the Pottawatamee County Sheriff's Office,
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spoke to Dave about this. Dave confirmed that he was
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definitely not engaged to Carrie, and while he had still
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been receiving countless texts and emails from her, he had
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not seen her since six a m. On the morning
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of November thirteenth. Soon after this new Facebook was created,
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Nancy started receiving messages from the account, and she asked
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for a phone call to see if the person sending
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the messages was really her daughter. In response, she was told, quote, fine,
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I will call you, but I am done. After that.
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You have Max and I am grateful, but after all
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the cop stuff from before, I am done. I am
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not ten years old, mom. I can leave him and
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move on with someone new. This message raised even more
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suspicion for Nancy because Carrie was completely devoted to her son.
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She kept a close eye on him and went to
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all of his sporting events and school activities, and she
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also called him frequently to talk to him instead of texting.
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For Carrie to abandon her only child to run off
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with a man, as she had implied, was not only
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out of character for her, but something that no one
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thought she was capable of doing. Nancy also never received
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that promised phone call. Also that January, Dave called the
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police to report that Carrie's black Ford Explorer was parked
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near his apartment. Omaha police detective searched the vehicle, which
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they observed being credibly clean, and recovered a fingerprint on
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a mint container, according to ABC, but it didn't match
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anything in their database or the FBI's National one. Police,
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in an effort to try and trace her, obtained consent
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from lizzen Dave, according to court records, to extract data
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from their phones related to the messages and emails that
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they had been receiving. However, the data extracted was focused
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on messages recently received, not ones deleted prior to this.
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As police worked to figure out where Carrie was, Liz
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and Dave were subjected to even more harassment. Dave, even
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after changing his number multiple times, received messages threatening Liz's
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life being sent a photo of a woman tied up
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in the trunk of a car. When he called Liz
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to see if she was okay, they realized that Carrie
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had been lying, but they were disturbed at the thought
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that her threats could become reality. The vandalism to Liz's
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home increased as well. She called Dave in a panic,
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telling him how someone had broken into her home, cut
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and slashed all of her clothes quote like murder style,
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and messages calling her a whoror were written on the walls.
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This was more than enough probable cause for Omaha police
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to obtain an arrest warrant for harassment and stocking, but
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it was useless that they couldn't find Carrie five months
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after anyone had last seen her. According to the Omaha
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World Herald, Sergeant the Master went to Carrie's home to
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look for any sign of where she might be, and
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oddly enough, her home looked like she had just stepped
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out for a moment and planned to return. All of
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her clothes were still there on her her closet and dresser,
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and he had even found her medication left behind, not
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just the one to manage her bipolar disorder, but also
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what she took to manage her arthritis and sealiac disease.
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While this all seemed very strange since Carrie hadn't been
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seen in five months, but she clearly hadn't moved out,
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there was no indication that anything was amiss in her house,
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nor were there any clues as to where she might
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have gone. The following month, in May, Carrie's son Max
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received a message from her saying, quote, hey, little man,
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how are you? Max said he did an answer for
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nearly two weeks because the message had spooked him, but
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when he finally did respond, he asked three questions, two
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of which only his mom would know. What was his
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middle name, what was the name of their family dog,
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and who was his childhood best friend. He never received
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an answer. As timeage closed her to a full year
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that anyone had physically seen Carrie farvar the constant messaging
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never let up. Carrie said as to Dave, saying she
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was listening at his door. She told him she moved
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into an apartment in the same complex as him, which
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was an apartment that didn't exist, and she continuously threatened
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Liz In anyone that was involved in Dave's life that
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included Dave's ex girlfriend, Amy Flora, the mother of his children.
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Amy was so uncomfortable with what Dave is experiencing that
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she told him that their children were no longer allowed
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to go to his home to see him. He'd have
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to come to them. Yet Dave would still get messages
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from Carrie saying she knew that he was with his
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children and she was watching them. With every message, Dave's
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paranoia grew worse, and he purchased a nine millimeter Smith
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and Wesson for production. He also spent more and more
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time at the bar, drinking, doing anything he could to
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try and relax, even for just a brief moment. On
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August seventeen, twenty thirteen, every moment a paranoia Dave felt
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was rationalized when he received a text from Carrie saying
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she had said Liz's house on fire. According to court records,
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by this point, Dave and Liz had actually ended their relationship,
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but that day, at eight fourteen, a m Omaha police
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received a call that a home was on fire. Liz
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had come home at seven thirty that morning and had
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discovered the blaze, but by the time police in the
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fire department arrived, it had burnt out, but none of
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the four animals that lived in the home had survived.
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Firefighters during a walkthrough of the home determined there were
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six different points of origin and an accelerant had definitely
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been used, meaning this fire was set intentionally. Sergeant Legro said,
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quote this was now an entirely different type of investigation.
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He absolutely believed that this could escalate to murder. Carrie
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claims responsibility for the fire, telling Liz and Da via
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email that she quote set that nasty Horrors house on fire.
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I hope the hor and her kids die in it.
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To be clear, Liz's children were not home at the
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time of the fire, but this was the last straw
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for her. Of course, Liz was so upset, and she
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tells the police she just wants Carrie to go away.
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As a result of everything that had transpired over the
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last nine or so months, Liz gathered the belonging she
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was able to salvage from the fire and left, not
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telling Dave where she was going. Of course, he didn't
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blame her for this decision, but he was sad that
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now he was alone in this and that he had
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lost someone that meant a lot to him. Because of Carrie.
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Dave did what he could to try and move on,
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but he was constantly looking over his shoulder, waiting for
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Carrie to come for him next. In January of twenty fourteen,
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over a year after Carrie had last been seen and
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the stalking and harassment had started, Dave was at his
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apartment hanging out with a friend from high school named
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Heather Twett, when he started receiving a string of messages
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about having another woman in his home. According to ABC,
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immediately after, they heard someone jiggling the door handle, and
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later that evening, a brick was thrown through his window.
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Soon after, the autobody shop he worked at was also vandalized.
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Dave ultimately moved out of his apartment and even changed jobs,
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trying to run from what was happening so he could
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finally have peace, but Carrie followed him wherever he went,
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making it clear that he belonged to her. The situation
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only gets worse when Amy becomes a target for Carrie's wrath.
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Amy said in Lover Soccer Killer that she had received
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messages from Carrie warning Amy to stay away from Dave
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and threatening to quote cut her throat. This was terrifying enough,
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but then Carrie started involving their children. Carrie made it
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known that she was watching them, sending messages detailing what
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they were doing. At the time, she threatened the children's lives,
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and Amy lived in such visible fear that she said
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her son started sleeping in the living room of their
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home with the baseball bat to protect his family, and
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he was only a child at the time. It's like
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Carrie had managed to find a way to be everywhere
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at any given moment, watching from the shadows. After all
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of this has continued to go on. In twenty fifteen,
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Sergeant Jim Dody of the Pottawatamee County Sheriff's Office, along
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with Detective Brian Avis, get curious about the investigation into
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Carrie Farvard's disappearance. It had been two and a half
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years since anyone put eyes on her, and while the
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case was inactive, they were intrigued, so they requested to
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be put on the case. This is where things get interesting.
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The two detectives decide that they're going to work the
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case from different angles. Detective Davis told ABC quote, Jim's
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going to work it like she's dead, and I'm going
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to work it like she's alive. I'm going to try
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to prove every which way I can that Carrie is
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still out there, and Jim is going to try and
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prove every which way that she's not. The two investigators
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look at Carrie's case from the very beginning, and they
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both determined pretty quickly that her bipolar disorder is not
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relevant to the investigation. She hadn't just stopped taking her
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medication and made questionable decisions. The main reason for this
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line of thinking is that after two and a half years,
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someone finally looked into her banking records. Besides two transactions
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totaling almost four hundred dollars at a Family Dollar and
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a wal Mart made a couple of days after she
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was last seen, during which a particular black and white
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shower curtain was bought, which will be relevant later. Carrie
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had not touched her checking accounts since she went missing. Additionally,
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Dody and Avis looked at the photos taken when police
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had visited her home and agreed that it seems as
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if Carrie had planned to come back. The closet was
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full of clothes, a jacket was thrown on the chair,
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and her bed was made, implying that she had left
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to go about her day and would return. As I
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mentioned earlier, Avis said of the lack of bank activity, quote,
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It's not normal for adults to just up and leave
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and literally spend no money. No one's seen them and
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no one's heard their voice. It just didn't make sense.
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She had a good income, a good house. I had
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come to conclusion that I could not prove that she
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was actually alive. While Avis is trying to find a
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money trail to follow, Sergeant Dotie is curious about Liz Golier.
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The biggest thing that was nagging him about her was
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the fact that, prior to Carrie's disappearance, the two women
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didn't know each other at all, but suddenly, after a
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brief encounter two weeks prior to Carrie going missing, Liz
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is the object of Carrie's ire. It didn't make sense,
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Dotie told ABC. Quote, her name was all over the reports,
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so to me, there was something with Liz. She was
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definitely a person of interest. Dody and Avis, in May
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of twenty fifteen go and speak to Nancy Rainey to
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get more information about her daughter. Of course, Nancy is
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a bit suspicious, as the police until this point hadn't
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seemed to be taking her concerns seriously, but she was
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reassured by the two investigators that they really did believe her.
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They were working on the assumption that Carrie had not
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left willingly. While they were at her home. According to ABC,
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Nancy tells police about the check that Carrie had sent
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her for the sale of her furniture back in twenty
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thirteen that I had mentioned being important earlier. She showed
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police the image and they see that it was signed
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by a Shanna Goliar if you remember, Liz's first name
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is Shanna. Police acknowledged that this didn't prove that Liz
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was involved in any way, but it did imply that
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Liz likely knew a lot more than what she had
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been leading everyone's belief. Because all of the contact with
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Carrie had been through text and email. Dodie and Avis
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asked the forensics administrator at the Pottawatamee County Sheriff's Office,
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Anthony Cava, to go through the data and see if
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he can make any connections. What Kaba noticed was that
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over the three year time span and tens of thousands
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of messages, whoever was sending these was getting better and
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better at try trying to hide their identity, including the
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IP address the messages were coming from. So Kava wrote
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the program necessary to help him find the IP address
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he needed to narrow things down. Finally, after searching and searching,
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he gets the hit. He's looking for IP address one
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seven four seven one six one one three. This address
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was registered to a home in Council Bluffs, Iowa, and
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belonged to a man named Todd Butterbaugh is soundingly enough.
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Todd worked for Pottawatame County as a network administrator and
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his employer was Tony Cava. Of course, now the police
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are concerned because being that Todd works in it, he
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could access the case file. So police obtained a search
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warrant and head to Todd's home. While police are there,
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they speak to Todd and they ask if anyone else
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is living in his home. Todd says yes, actually, his
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off and on again girlfriend was staying there. In fact,
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she had been living there since her house had burned down,
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and the girlfriend's name was Liz Gollier. According to court records,
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Todd and Liz met online in September of twenty ten,
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and they dated through September of twenty fifteen. Though Liz
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and her children would remain living in his house. According
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to Todd, they had been in a monogamous relationship and
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he did what he could to help Liz when she
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fell on hard times, helping her pay bills, assisting her
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in buying a car, and even did what he could
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regarding caring for her children. Oddly enough, Todd also had
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received messages from Carrie starting in twenty thirteen, and she
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had said she was friends with Liz. When Todd asked,
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Liz confirmed to him that this was true. Though he
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had passed a knowledge of Carrey from the messages that
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had been sent, Todd alleged that he was completely unaware
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of any threatening messages Liz had received, and as far
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as he knew, Dave Krupo was a former boyfriend of
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Liz and they hadn't spoken or seen each other in ages.
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In speaking with Todd, police learned that Liz had access
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to Todd's Internet for years, and with this information, investigators
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were able to connect the dots with all roads leading
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back to Liz Golier. It was crystal clear that she
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had been impersonating Carrie Farver since the very beginning, sending
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thousands of texts and emails to Carrie's family, herself, and
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to Dave. After making this connection, Dave is visited at
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work by Potawatamie police and notified that Liz Golier has
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been the once stocking him. At the news, Dave told
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lover stocker killer quote, my brain was spinning. I went
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to the back of the shop where my toolbox was
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and just leaned on it and cried, I'm trying to
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go through the pieces of the puzzle and put them together.
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It was Liz stoking me this whole time. It was
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such a mind fuck. It didn't take me long checking
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the boxes in my head to figure out that Carrie
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was probably dead. Police agreed that Carrie had had likely
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benzad the entire time. The problem was, though, was that
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they needed to prove it. They had no idea what
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had happened to her, where her body was, nor did
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they have any evidence to prove that Liz was responsible,
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even though it was likely that she had killed Carrie. Meanwhile,
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Kava is also looking through the data from Liz's phone
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and he finds something interesting. In January of twenty thirteen,
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as I mentioned, Dave reported to the police that Carrie's
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car was parked near his home. In Liz's phone were
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photos of Carrie's ford that had been taken the month
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prior to the police being notified of the vehicle. They
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had also found six calls to Carrie's home that Liz
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had made using Star sixty seven to disguise her number,
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which the police also found odd. Additionally, in Liz's phone
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data was the photo of a woman tied up in
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a car that had been sent to Dave, which they
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determined was taken with her phone, as well as the
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video of someone walking by Dave's apartment, which had been
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uploaded to a YouTube channel under Carrie's name, but was
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tied to an IP address registered under Liz's name. This
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home at this address was the same house that had
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allegedly been burned down by Carrie in twenty fourteen. Investigators
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learned that coincidentally, while Liz's pets had died in the fire,
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Liz had recently been evicted and most of her belongings
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had already been removed from the house before the fire
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had been set. Kava told any that besides the multiple
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IP addresses, proxies VPNs being used to obscure where the
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messages were coming from Liz was also using quote, a
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website that allowed her to send emails and text messages
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on a certain day and time when she was with Krupa,
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they would both receive messages at the same time from Carrie.
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Liz had also created over twenty four different email addresses
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using a variation of Carrie's name to try and further
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cover her tracks. As investigators are really diving into Carrie's case,
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they begin to focus on Carrie's Ford Explorer. Based on
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the evidence found in Liz's phone, they knew that she
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had known where the car was after Carrie disappeared. They
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looked into the evidence report and see that logged in
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evidence is that fingerprint found on the main container that
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wasn't a match to anyone in any database. This time,
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the prince is compared to Liz's known fingerprints and they
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get a match. This single fingerprint proved that Liz had
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been in Carrie's vehicle prior to police recovering it in
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January twenty thirteen. Carrie's car is reprocessed in September of
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twenty fifteen and analysts are looking for blood, but they
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don't find anything notable in this search, even with strong
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evidence to suggest that Liz was involved in what police
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believed to be Carrie's murder. They still have nothing to
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prove that she was responsible in some way, and they
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know they need the whole picture, So police put a
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tracker on Liz's car and they begin watching her movements.
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Liz is under surve Allen's constantly and Dody and Avis
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see that oddly enough, Liz is circling the area around
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Amy Flora's home every single day, and they are very
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concerned that Amy and her children are possibly in danger.
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They just don't know the extent of what Liz could
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be capable of. Also around this time, in early December
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of twenty fifteen, Dave Krupa discovers that his gun is missing,
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stolen from the top shelf of the closet he kept
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it in. However, the person that goes to the police
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about it is not Dave, but rather Liz Gollier, who
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walks into the Potawatamie Sheriff's office to not only report
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the gun missing, but to file a complaint against Amy Flora.
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According to People magazine, Liz claims that she has received
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numerous harassing emails and texts from Amy and in fact,
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she doesn't think Carrie Farvard was the person who had
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been stalking her in Dave for the last few years.
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She believed Amy was the one behind everything, jealous that
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the other of her children have moved on, according to
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court records. The police requests a new download of Liz's
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phone data to review the messages, which she agrees to,
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and they tell her that Amy will be followed up
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with on Monday, as this was a Friday evening. The
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next evening, December fifth, the danger that police have been
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so worried about creeping closer was realized when a call
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comes into police at six forty pm. A woman has
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called nine one one reporting that she had been shot
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in the leg at Big Lake Park in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
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Investigators are convinced that Amy has been the one heart
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so when they arrive at the scene, police are baffled
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by who they find bleeding in the parking lot. And
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since it's been so long since I have left you
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on a cliffhanger, I'm going to end this episode here.
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Next week you will get part two of this episode
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and we will wrap it all up. But this is
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already very long and I can't possibly bore you for
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another hour. So with that, I hope you have a
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wonderful week and I will talk to you in the
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next chapter of the Book of the Dead. Bye, guys,
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Another page closed. But the story isn't over. For the
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families left behind, the pain doesn't end when the headline's fade.
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And for the victims, we owe them more than silence
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for our on solved cases. If you have any information,
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please reach out to local authorities or visit our show
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notes for links and resources. Someone out there knows something,
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maybe it's you. Thank you for listening to the Book
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of the Dead. If this story moved or spoke to
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you in some way, talk about it, share it, keep
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their names alive. Until next time, I'm Courtney Liso. Stay safe,
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stay curious, and stay vigilant, and remember the dead may
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be gone, but their stories will not be forgotten.
