Sept. 18, 2024

Chapter 84: Missing in Mexico-The Disappearance of Juana Ramirez

Chapter 84: Missing in Mexico-The Disappearance of Juana Ramirez

From The Book of The Dead archive, we present the case of Juana Bernal Ramirez. On October 1, 1995, 3-year-old Juana Ramirez went to Chapultepec Park with her family for a day of fun, however, the Ramirez family's worst nightmare would become a...

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From The Book of The Dead archive, we present the case of Juana Bernal Ramirez. On October 1, 1995, 3-year-old Juana Ramirez went to Chapultepec Park with her family for a day of fun, however, the Ramirez family's worst nightmare would become a reality when Juana disappeared without a trace. With no witnesses and no evidence, it would be 27 years before anyone would learn the fate of little Juana.

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1630DFMX - Juana Bernal Ramirez. (n.d.). https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1630dfmx.htmlBrown, L. (2023, June 19). Mom reunited with daughter 27 years after she was snatched as a toddler. New York Post. https://nypost.com/2023/06/19/mom-reunited-with-daughter-27-years-after-she-was-snatched/Bullen, L. (2023, June 16). Mother is reunited with daughter 27 years after she was kidnapped from a park at three years old. The Independent. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/missing-daughter-found-mexico-park-b2359022.htmlMia. (2023, June 28). Woman solves her own kidnapping 27 years later - The Wicked Truth - medium. Medium. https://medium.com/the-wicked-truth/woman-kidnapped-as-a-child-solves-her-own-case-reunites-with-her-mom-after-27-years-apart-d4f70aebedc1News Band. (2023, June 16). Girl stolen aged 3 reunites with mum 27 years later after an incredible clue. News Band. https://news.band/girl-stolen-aged-3-reunites-with-mum-27-years-later-after-an-incredible-clue/#google_vignette

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Hi guys. I'm Courtney and I'm Lisa, and welcome to

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Hi, guys, Welcome to the next bonus chapter. We're actually

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changing things up and talking about a case with an

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ending that may surprise you today.

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So this may be a pleasant surprise.

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I don't know. You'll have to wait and find out.

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So this is a case that I actually heard about

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about a month ago or so, one that I've actually

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been waiting to talk about because it's like a lot

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of people aren't talking about this, and this is this

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is a case that people should be talking about. So

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this is the disappearance of Wanna Bernald Ramirez. It is

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actually very recent. The this case's resolution was only announced

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within the last year. I don't remember hearing about it,

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but maybe it will jog my memory. So Wana Ramirez

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was born on June sixteenth, in either nineteen ninety one

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or nineteen ninety two. I couldn't figure out what year,

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if I'm gonna be totally honest with you, and she

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lived in Mexico City, Mexico. Her mother's name was Lorena,

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although her father does not seem to be named in

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any English publication, so I'm not sure what his name is.

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At the time of her disappearance, she had two brothers,

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but Lorena and her husband did have daughters after the

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fact as well. Now. On October first, nineteen ninety five,

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Lorena and her husband took their three children to Chipultapeck

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Park in Mexico City for the day to spend time

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with some relatives. It was kind of like a family gathering.

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This park is very expansive. It has a zoo, a

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big beautiful garden, like it's like half National park, half zoo,

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half community garden kind of thing. It's a really pretty area.

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I saw pictures online. It's really really beautiful, but definitely

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one that you could kind of lose someone in a

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crowd because it's really big. Yeah, lots of places too,

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wander off too, exactly so, after spending the day letting

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the children play, the ramirez Is are packing things up

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and saying goodbye to their family members at around four

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thirty in the afternoon. Now at this point, Lorena, who

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had been watching the children the whole time, is holding

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on to three year old Jana's hand when she lets

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go for a split second to hug a relative goodbye.

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In that split second that Lorena let go of her

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daughter's hand, Wana would disappear without a trace.

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Children are so fast, they can disappear, as you said it,

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a split second, in a heartbeat. They and you'd think

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you know little one's little legs, but they're they're quick

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as lightning. Well.

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According to Newsbreak, Lorena realized Wana was gone within moments,

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and something in her gut told her that Wana hadn't

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just wandered off. Someone took her. She told The Independent quote,

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if it was a mother's hunch, but I knew in

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that moment that my daughter had been taken. For me

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to Lorena, this wasn't she wandered off somewhere like she is.

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Something inside of her told her, like someone took my baby.

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That is a parent's worst nightmare.

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So she ran to a security guard and begged him

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to close the gate to the park in an effort

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to prevent whoever had taken Wana from leaving, but he refused.

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Wana told the Limited Times, quote, the first thing I

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did was run to the nearest door, the one that

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led to the Paseo de la Reforma. After the guard

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refused to shut the gate, she said, quote, we waited

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until the last person left to see if someone was

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waiting for us to hand over the girl. But that

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didn't happen. So the family immediately contacted the Support Center

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for Missing and Absent Persons to report Wanna missing, but

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they told her she had to wait seventy two hours

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to report her missing. Seventy two hours for a missing

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three year old. That's insane, That is absolutely that's that's

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like the thing like this wasn't a teenager with a

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history of breaking curfew, like this was a baby.

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Well, that's what I mean. It's it's insane to say

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you have to wait seventy two hours for a three

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year old that's missing. I mean, how many times do

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you get the alerts on your phone that there's you know,

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there's an amber alert because a child has gone missing

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in the United States and you get the ever alert,

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like within minutes.

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I mean exactly, And according to Larna, allegedly they were

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told to wait just in case the abductor tried to

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return her, which is just such a backwards way of thinking.

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Again, I'm going this, this is not good.

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A week later, the police would finally launch an investigation

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into Juanna's disappearance. Wait wait, you said seventy two hours

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for the police, it's an entire week. Then, what the

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heck is the seventy two hours? Yoricus is as good

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as mine. I don't know what the police were doing

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in that instant, but.

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They say, wait, seventy two hours, which I think is

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complete insanity. And now you're telling me.

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That it's a week later that they launched an investigation. Yeah,

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who knows what they were doing. But the Ramirez family,

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with the help of their friends and other family members,

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had launched their own investigation. They put a missing person's

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fires and joined an organization for Missing Persons Awareness. But

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there was very little media coverage about Wanta's disappearance, so

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no real leads were coming in none, I mean just

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researching this case. There are so few articles about it.

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And most of them, really all of them are from

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current times like this year, last year, none from when

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this actually happened.

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I also don't understand that, like why wouldn't it be

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all over the news the.

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I really don't know. It's I mean, I don't know

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what the media was like in Mexico in the nineties.

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But Mexico City is It's a city. It's not a

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small little town.

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That's why I'm saying it should have been on the news,

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on TV, it should have been in the papers, it

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should have been pretty much plastered on every media source

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that there could be, radio, TV, newspaper. As I said,

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it's I don't understand what they were doing. Well.

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The years passed with the Ramirez family waiting and hoping

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that a miracle would happen and Wana would come back

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to them. Meanwhile, in Teluca, Mexico, miles away from where

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Juana had lived with her family, a little girl lived

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with her parents and three brothers. Her name was Rossio Martinez,

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and as she grew up, her parents may have clothed her,

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fed her, and centered school, but they weren't good parents

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and they didn't treat Rossio very well. Now, as the

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years went on, Rossio felt very much in her heart

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that the family she lived with was not her true family,

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and eventually her neighbors confirmed those thoughts when they told

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her that her parents were not her real parents.

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How did they know?

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Well. After getting into an argument with her mother when

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she was about twelve years old, Rossio confronted her asking

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for the truth of who she was, and Rossio's mother

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told her that Rosso was found wandering around Chapultepec Park

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and they took her in.

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That sounds a little stretched.

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Well, according to Rosso's mother, they found her wandering around

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and they just decided to adopt her, this abandoned little girl.

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There's some sketchy there.

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According to the Limited Times, Rossio knew from that moment

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that something was missing, but she didn't know how to

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go about finding it. Like whatever this missing part of

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her was, this missing peace, she didn't know how to

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find it. Well, she's twelve, yeah, exactly, and her parents,

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needless to say, not helpful. At seventeen years old, she

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moved out of her family's house and went to live

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with her boyfriend, who she would later marry and have

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two children with. And Rossio's husband would be the one

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to encourage her to look for her real family and

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supported her in her search, which I mean, what a

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great guy.

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Yeah, I was just gonna say he gets the gold

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star for today for being a good good man.

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So one day, when her youngest child was still an infant,

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she came across a missing person's flyer of a little

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girl named Juana Ramirez. And when she saw the photo,

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the resemblance of the little girl in the picture was

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that of her child. Like her infant baby looked so

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much like this little girl, she said, quote the physical

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resemblance was so great that I said, I am that person.

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But there was a problem, she said, quote. When I

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found that photo, there was no phone number or address

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where I could go to. And I saw the missing

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missing person's fire there really was very little information on it,

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just like very basic stats with Wana's hair and I color,

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her age, and where she was last seen. That was it.

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Like they didn't even put what she was last wearing,

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her approximate height or weight, Like there was like no information.

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found the courage to try and hunt down the family

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of Wanna Ramirez, but she finally did it, which I

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mean that makes sense. That's probably very scary.

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Well, yeah, because you don't know if you are that

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person or not, even though you know she's sure that

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she is just for the you know, the it matching

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her child, you know, well he exactly like her child,

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you know, are you gonna put that family through more

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pain and suffering? You know, because you don't know a

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if they've ever found their child or if they're still searching,

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And this could be quote unquote a dead end, you know,

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and you you know, you have all that hope as

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her parents, and then to find out that this wasn't her.

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Exactly, so it it could be very heartbreaking from on

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both ends, That's what I mean. Yeah, so I fully

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understand that. But she finally did it, and on August first,

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twenty twenty two, she posted a message to her Facebook

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with a photo of Wana, asking for information about the family,

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saying that she believed that she really was the missing

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little girl who had disappeared at this point twenty seven

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years earlier, and someone saw the message. Now, as the

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years went by, they were Mara's family, as I said,

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continued to look for Wana. In twenty twenty, Lorena's husband

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passed away without ever knowing what happened to his daughter,

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and in June of twenty twenty two, Lorena actually slipped

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into a coma from complications from COVID nineteen. Now when

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she awoke, things were very touch and go, and fearing

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that she would not survive, she asked her daughter Maria

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to keep looking for Wana. In July of twenty twenty two,

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Lorena had a life saving surgery and recovered from COVID

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nineteen and in August, a month later, Maria saw a

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post on Facebook about Wana, the post that Rossio had

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made claiming to be Maria's missing sister. So Maria reached

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out to Rosso and three days later Maria and her

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siblings met up with her, and they knew immediately that

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this was their missing sister because Rossio was the spinning

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image of Lorena, and I saw pictures of Lorena and

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Roseo together and they are like carbon copies of each other.

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DNA tests not necessary, but they did have a DNA

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test performed, and in October of that year it was

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it was confirmed with a ninety nine point nine to

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nine percent match that Rossio was really one of Ramires

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so finally the real story of what happened to her

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came out. Rossio and she goes by this name still

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is it's the only one that she's ever known, So

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I'm just going to continue to refer to her as

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Rossio since you remember the day she disappeared. She remembered

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Lorena had let go of her hand, and then the

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next thing she knew, a strange hand was grabbing her wrist.

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So in the park that day was a couple name

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Antonio Martinez and Patricia Velasquez. They were in the park

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specifically looking for a child to take when they saw

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Rossio and also saw that her parents were distracted, so

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they took their opportunity. Now, it's interesting because most people

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that abduct children without the intent of something disgusting or

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usually doing it because they want a child of their own.

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I agree with that, But Antonio and Patricia had two

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children already, so it was kind of weird that they

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were out looking looking for a child. Is It's very

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strange now in terms of Rossio won't talk about a

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lot of what happened, so I don't know the extent

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of what happened. But after they grabbed her, they drugged

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her so she wouldn't cry, and put her in a

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car taking her back to their home in Te Luca,

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which was fifty miles away, and when Rossio woke up,

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they told her that they were her new parents and

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their sons were her new brothers. According to Newsbreak, it

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seems like the reason they took Rossio was so that

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they would essentially have a live in slave, Like by

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this time she was seven, she apparently already knew how

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to cook and clean, and they would beat her if

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she didn't do what she was told. She wasn't allowed

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to leave the house unless it was for school, and

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Patricia also went on to tell Rosso that her parents

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were drug addicts and didn't even want her, which wasn't

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even close to reality. So I don't know if they

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took her to essentially treat her like a slave or

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what the reasoning was behind it, because it again, it's

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just very strange to steal a child when you already

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have children. As I said, like, if you're not stealing

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them for trafficking or any trafficking or anything like that,

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then you're stealing a child because you, like, are so

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desperate to have a child, you've resorted to stealing one

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kind of thing. So it's it's just very strange. The

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whole fact that you said her her quote unquote adopted

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mother was mean to her, Like again, why would you

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do that? Yeah? Why why are you stealing a child?

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It's very strange. I don't understand. But when Rosso was

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final reunited with Lorena, Lorena said it was the happiest

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moment of her life. She said, quote, I couldn't believe it.

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When I opened the door, I stopped and she walked

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in that hug. After twenty seven years, she saw me

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and said, you are my mother. I replied yes, and

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you are my daughter. Rossio is now thirty years old,

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and although she never got to reunite with her father,

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she remembers him from when she was a little girl

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and holds onto those memories. Now she is just spending

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time getting to know her mother and siblings, and her

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two sons are getting to know their family as well.

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Lorena said, quote, now I feel happy and blessed by God.

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Lost time with my daughter will never be recovered. But

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right now you have to live and enjoy the moment.

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Life is so short that we don't know what will

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happen tomorrow. We must live happily. Her mom sounds like

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an amazing woman that she's not angry, or it doesn't

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seem to be. I'm sure she probably is and rightfully so.

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They stole her daughter, so all of that time lost,

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and it's true, all of those memories that could have

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been now they have a chance to make new memories.

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But you know, I for her to be not screaming

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at the top of her lungs and having the people

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that stole her, you know, put in jail forever well.

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Antonio Martinez and Patricia Blaska's were arrested in March of

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twenty twenty three and they are currently in custody awaiting

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trial for aggravated child's abduction. I did not see any

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sort of updates. It looks like they're still waiting for

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that trial to begin, but they were arrested pretty much

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they don't need a trial, just throw them in jail

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really bummed about it, but whatever, it's fine.

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about me. Yeah, and I'm upset about it. So anyway,

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little better, a little bit better about her mom being

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that just because somebody is not being nice, that I

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to their wishes.

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Yes, only treats, no tricks. Maybe nice tricks. I haven't

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found a nice trick unless it's a magicious trick.

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