Chapter 80: The Cost of Infatuation-The Murder of Alex Ferreira

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I can find it, so you
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But anyway, we're going to jump
right in and The story I have

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for you today is one that I
don't think anyone has ever really talked about.

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In fact, I only found two
articles about this, and they were

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basically carbon copies of each other.
But I think it's a story that needs

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to be told about how dangerous young
love, however misguided, can be.

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I normally like did you deep dives
and provide longer episodes, because I feel

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like, if you're going to talk
about a case, you should have a

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lot of information to back it up. But these two articles were all I

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could find on this case, which
is unfortunate, but a story that should

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be told. Nonetheless, this is
the story of the murder of Alex Ferira.

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Alex Ferrara was a thirty three year
old man from Yatai, southern Guaya

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State in Brazil. According to medium
dot com, this particular area is known

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for its production of agricultural products,
and Alex also had a young daughter about

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twelve or thirteen years old, depending
on the publication, from a previous relationship,

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as well as a brand new wife, twenty year old Malee Helen Cravallo.

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Not gonna lie side eyeing that relationship
a little bit, but I digress.

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Not relevant to the story has nothing
to do with it. Now,

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Alex's daughter did not live with him. She lived with her grandmother, but

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she was just down the block from
her father, and she would visit Alex

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and Maylee regularly. Now, ordinarily, when introducing a new significant other to

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a young child, the parent can
be nervous about this, which is totally

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normal. You're introducing a new parental
figure in your child's life. But Alex

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didn't have this problem. Maylee and
his daughter got along fabulously, and Alex

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was thrilled, as I'm sure any
parent would be, that their child has

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openly accepted this new parental figure into
their life. Okay, so that the

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wife is twenty, yes, he's
thirty two, thirty three, thirty three

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excuse me, sorry about that one. So there's a thirteen year age difference

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there, and the daughter is either
twelve or thirteen. Yeah, depending this,

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I believe the son said she was
twelve, the mirror said she was

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thirteen. Either way, very very
young, barely a teenager. Okay,

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so the stepmom is more like a
big sister to the twelve or thirteen year

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old. Yeah, she's only like, it's only like a seven year age

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different race, just clarifying that for
my own brain. However, Alex's delight

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would soon turn into misgivings about his
daughter's relationship with his new wife. Okay,

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why is that? Well? According
to The Mirror in November of twenty

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twenty, after trying to figure out
why he was feeling so unsure about his

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daughter and how quick she had taken
to Maylee, he allegedly found text messages

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and a letter his daughter had written
to her stepmother, and they were,

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needless to say, very concerning.
According to this letter, Alex's daughter professes

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her love for Meilee and begs her
to leave Alex that they could live together.

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I'm a little confused here. I'm
not confused. Okay, let's clarify

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that way. I'm not confused about
what is the I guess okay, I'm

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confused about why this young child is
writing a letter to the stepmom saying,

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leave my dad and we're gonna go
live. You know, we should go

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live together. I don't know if
this is more of a she's viewing the

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stepmom as a big sister kind of
thing. She's living with her grandmother.

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Yes, okay, it's just a
little confusing, like the relationship is married,

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and I wish I had more details, but I don't. Now it's

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said that this love was a platonic
love, so I don't know if it's

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you know, I just I love
mainly, like so much better than my

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dad. I wish she was my
mom, Like I want to just live

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with her, not my dad.
I don't know what kind of relationship she

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had with her father. I'm not
no, Well, I was just going

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on the you know, she's this, she's looking up to this young woman

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twenty years old, you know,
looking up to this young woman as a

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big sister. That's why I keep
going back to this big sister thing,

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only because there isn't that huge of
an age difference between the stepmom and the

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young daughter well exactly, so I
don't know what their dynamic was, but

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that's kind of what I would think. But it's it's either way. It's

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it's concerning for this young girl to
be telling her stepmother to leave her dad

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so that they can live together,
just the two of them. Like it's

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bizarre. Well, I think so
too, But again, you know,

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you're talking about a child, and
I'm not saying that adult feelings are not

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intense, but a child who's kind
of I'll say, latched onto one person,

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you know. And again it could
be it could be a friend's mom,

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you know, it could be a
big sister of a friend, that

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same kind of you know, I
love this person. They're so nice to

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me. You know, I wish
I could be with them because I guess,

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you know, maybe living with Grandma
isn't I'm not saying that the grandmother

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did anything wrong. Please, people
do not get that wrong. The grandmother

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dad or just knowing that her she's
kind of floating in between grandma's house and

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her dad's house. Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. It's

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I don't know, it could be
really for any reason, because they didn't

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provide those details, so it's really
up to speculation for your own interpretation.

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Yeah. What's even more interesting is
that a family member told the Mirror that

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quote. The girl's popul love had
been going on for several months and was

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an open secret among family members,
so obviously she was not hiding how she

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felt about maye mm hmm. But
I also get why the family kind of

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just thought it as a phase,
Like she's twelve or thirteen, right,

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and children go through a lot of
phases. You know, there are kids

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that I don't know, for a
solid couple of weeks, the only thing

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they want to eat is I don't
know, bloney, And then for the

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next couple of weeks, so like, nah, I no, don't want

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a blowny sandwich, mom, forget
it, don't want that in my lunch

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box. Yeah. I think we
all go through phases though. Yeah,

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and you know, typically this wouldn't
necessarily be anything to be concerned about if

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it stayed a phase and she grew
out of this phase. Now, obviously,

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Alex is shocked by this and probably
furious, so he approaches his daughter

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and scolds her. He tells her
how inappropriate her feelings are and how she's

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misguided in her feelings for Maylee,
which honestly is the exact way or response

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to something like that. I think
that was the exact appropriate response. Well,

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I think you have to be careful
though, because young children, the

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more you say, you know,
don't do that, the more they want

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to do. Yeah. No,
and I'm not talking about this, it

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could be anything. No. Yeah, and I get what you're saying about

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that, and I agree. I'm
just saying, like his reaction to it

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to be like, no, we
need to put a stop to this.

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Oh, absolutely, definitely the correct
response for her part. Maylee, according

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to the Sun, said, after
being made aware of her stepdaughter's feelings,

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she made it clear to her that
she loved Alex very much and just wanted

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to be a good mother figure to
her stepdaughter, which is again a completely

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rational appropriate response. Oh yeah,
and explaining it that way is perfectly fine.

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There's no again, you're talking about
a twelve or thirteen year old,

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so kind of be careful with how
you approach it. But I think that

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was a perfect, perfect way,
absolutely, Except Alex's daughter did not think

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so. She was furious. She
ran off back home to her grandmother's and

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according to that article in the Sun, she was really festering about this and

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was holding this grudge against her father, and within twenty four hours the grudge

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would boil over with devastating results.
This is where the other shoe drops,

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isn't it. Yes, So the
next evening, this young girl drank a

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few cans of beer to work up
the courage to go back to her father's

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home. A twelve or thirteen year
old is having a couple of cans of

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beer, Well, what I'm thinking
is is she probably snuck that beer like

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out of the frame. Well,
you're out of it. I'm sure nobody

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handed it. No, But what
I'm saying is, I'm sure she did

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not have necessarily like I'm sure she
had relatively easy access. She's like,

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I'm just gonna take this because I'm
so angry and i just want to drink

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and to build up the courage.
Okay, I'm stuck on the whole beer

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drinking for a twelve or thirteen year
old, but then again, that's a

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normal parrot response. So after drinking, she leaves her grandmother's home and walks

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the block to her father's banging on
the door. Now the details are a

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bit fuzzy, but I'm assuming it
was pretty late because she allegedly woke up

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Malee and her father with the banging
on the door. So Maylee gets up

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and opens the door to find her
stepdaughter standing there. Now, Alex's daughter

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told Melee how sorry she was for
how she had acted and the way that

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she spoke to her father, and
she had come over to apologize and make

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things right. Okay, well that
sounds good, but again I'm waiting for

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that shoe would you like to drop
unexpectedly. Maine told her that Alex was

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sleeping. She knew he would happily
get up so that he and his daughter

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could talk and make amends, and
she welcomes her stepdaughter into their home.

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This would be a catastrophic mistake.
So this young girl walked into her father's

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home and headed into his bedroom.
Mayie came in behind her, and as

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Alex rose to sit up, his
daughter pulled out a knife, lunged forward,

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and stabbed her father in the chest. Okay, I was gonna say

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where did she get the knife,
but I'm sure she grabbed it from the

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kitchen of her grandmother's house. Yeah, it seems like she was like fighting

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it, like maybe in her shirt
or something. So Alex's daughter immediately runs

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out of the house after attacking her
father, and the police in an ambulance

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were called. Alex was transported to
doctor Saraphind at Cavalo Hospital, where he

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was pronounced dead on arrival. Oh
my god. Police meanwhile found the knife

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in the house that Alex's daughter had
abandoned, covered in blood, and police

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didn't have to actually look very long
to find his daughter. They found her

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sitting outside her grandmother's house. Now, when police asked her what happened,

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she confessed to stabbing her father,
telling police quote that she had fallen in

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love with her stepmother and was jealous
of her relationship with her dad. She

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also said she quote had lost it
after arguing with her dad, who threatened

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to prevent her from visiting them as
she continued with her infatuation, which is,

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according to that article from The Mirror, this young girl stabs her father

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to death because she I want to
say, it's a puppy love thing for

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her stepmom. Yeah, and he
was in the way of that. That's

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a tragedy on all levels. She
was arrested and transferred to a juvenile detention

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facility, where at the time the
article was written in November twenty twenty,

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she was facing charges of murder.
Now, under Brazilian law, her age

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required her to potentially be sentenced to
a maximum three year sentence with socio educational

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measures to rehabilitate her back into society. So if she were to be convicted

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and tried as an adult, she
would only serve three years max. Because

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she's a child. Yeah, because
she's a child, and I'm sure I

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mean, when you look at like
children who kill. It's actually very rare,

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rare parricide, you know, because
there's Patrick's side, Mattri's side,

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and parricide, which is the killing
of one or both of your parents.

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It's rare. It's like two percent
of all homicides are committed by children against

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their parents. And usually it has
to do with extreme abuse or extreme like

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emotional problems, which was not the
at least not so far that you have

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told me. Is the case here
exactly? And those are all the details

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I have, Like that's the end
of the case. I don't know any

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updates. I don't know if she
was sentenced because she is not named.

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She is a minor, so you
know, getting the details just based on

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that. You can't search up a
name. You search up Alex's name and

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there's actually an Olympic gold medalist or
an Olympian maybe not a gold medalist with

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the same name. So that's really
all that comes up is this Olympians.

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It's very hard to find any articles
for this. I found two and that

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medium article which is just the compilation
of both the Sign of the Mirror article,

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right, So I don't know any
other details, but it seems as

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if this was a young girl that
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was feeling well at that young age. Most don't, exactly, most children

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don't. They're mad, you know
about I don't know. And I'm using

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this as just an example a probably
in a very bad way. But you

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know, you tell your child,
no, you can't do X, and

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they're furious with you and why can't
I? Why can't I? And I

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want to do this? And they're
you know, stopping around the house or

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wherever you happen to be, and
they're basically having a mini meltdown because you

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said no as a parent or a
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to be with. And then two
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gone and they've moved on to something
else. You know, No, you

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can't watch this TV show and they're
mad, and then they find something to

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play with and they're happy again.
It's the emotions, just they switch on

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and off like a light switch,
like regulate it. They don't know how,

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they don't yet, they don't have
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And I think this was kind of
the same situation. She did not

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understand how to regulate that anger that
she was feeling towards her dad. It

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was, you know, I love
mainly dads in the way, do something

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about it kind of thing. I
don't, you know, I doubt this

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was. You know, this wasn't
like a premeditated thing. I think this

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was premeditated in the sense that,
like, you know, she drank the

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beer, grabbed the knife, walk
to her dad's and like didn't think about

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it, like was like I'm going
to do this. But this was within

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twenty four hours of getting into that
bad argument with her dad, where like

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I'm going to prevent you from coming
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But I don't think this was.
Look, I don't know any more details

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than you do, Okay, I
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say, I don't think she planned
to stab him. She may have planned

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to threaten him, but I think
this was just a reaction, I split

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second reaction. I don't think.
I don't and I should have said,

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like premeditated. It was definitely like
she was just this was all just a

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reaction of her anger. In my
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went there to kill her dad.
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knife because she was angry, like, I'm so angry I could hurt him

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kind of thing. I'm so angry, I'm going to show him that he

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can't prevent this, Like, I'm
not going to allow this in her you

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know, in her mind, I'm
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see the person that I love and
I want to be with, you know.

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I mean, how many times you
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a parent or a guardian will say
to one, you can't see this person

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anymore because they're a bad influence on
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run away. I mean, how
many times you hear a little kid they

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get mad and I'm running away and
they get to the corner and know that

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they can't cross street kind of thing, and then they come home. So

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it's it's the child stage, you
know, they're they're oh, absolutely,

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and that's like one of the like, being prevented from being with someone that

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they love or want to be with
is one of the causes of parricide,

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you know, in that rare moment
that it does happen. But it also

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makes me wonder if this was her
response at twelve or thirteen, What would

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her response be at like sixteen,
seventeen, eighteen. Oh, absolutely,

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I think this young girl needs counseling
to, you know, maybe deal with

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whatever is going on in her life
that she's I want to say, lashing

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out. Now, this happens to
be she loved her stepmom and she wanted

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to be with her, you know
where dad wasn't there. Because again,

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I'm thinking it's more like a big
sister kind of love. That's what I

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would like to think, Like,
this is my cool big sister, and

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like if we live together just ourselves, like we can like one big slumber

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party, we can stay up and
we can watch movies together, and we

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can do this. So we can
do that and there's no dad making me

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go to bed, I'm making me
go to school, Leave me go to

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school. It would be just us
against the world kind of thing. That's

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what I would like to think,
Because at like twelve or thirteen, you

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don't have the capacity to understand what
being in real love is. So I'm

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hoping you so, I'm just I
wasn't talking about you know, a love

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that you know you have for a
partner or a spouse. It's oh no,

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but this is the big sister.
You know, it's really cool.

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I mean, you know, if
you're if you have siblings and you have

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if you're not the oldest, and
you happen to be, you know,

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a younger sibling, you have an
older sibling, Yeah, it's really cool

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to hang out with an older sibling. It's really fun. You know,

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if they have their driver's license and
they take you for a ride in their

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car for ice cream or whatever it
happens to be, or they take your

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shopping. It's a lot of fun
and you kind of want to have that,

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you know, all the time.
So I understand. But this young

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girl, I believe, in my
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I don't know if there's stressors in
her life, maybe between you know,

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living at grandma's and going to dad's
and back and forth. I know

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it was close, but it's still
you're all not under the same roof kind

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of thing. So maybe what's what
she's allowed to do with Grandma's isn't what

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she's allowed to do with Dad's or
vice versa, you know, or if

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she's if dad is out and step
mom is around, and you know,

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well heck, I don't want to
have this for dinner, and the stepmom

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goes, hey, let's get a
pizza. Yeah, yeah, whatever it

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happened, you know, I agree
what you're saying. With what you're saying,

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it's it was most likely kind of
like a I doubt she probably even

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really saw her as a stepmom.
Because Malee was so young. It probably

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was like a big sister thing and
like, you know, she's so cool

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and like I wanted to just be
us and you know that, which you

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know is normal for like a young
girl. I do think that that was

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probably like the kind of love she
had and she just took it to this

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devastating level. I don't think she
Look, I don't have all of the

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facts. I am not the parent
of this child. I don't know,

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but I don't think that she really
meant to harm him in that way.

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Yeah. I think it was just
a I don't know, like you react.

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lashed out. Yeah. No,
I get what you're saying. And it's

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rare that you have like a case
where you like almost want to sympathize with

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the killer, but it's like in
this instance, there's there's another one where

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the killer is a young girl and
you you do sympathize with her, which

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it's a case that well, we
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me very much. But I believe
it's her name was Cinnamon Brown, and

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she was coerced into murdering I think
her mother by her father. I don't

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remember the exact details. I have
to look into it, but either way,

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it's like you sympathize with her.
Yeah, she was probably manipulated.

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She was. And this is another
case like not that this young girl was

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manipulated into anything, but you you
almost want to sympathize with her because you

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know, at twelve years old,
she's killed her father's she's lost her father

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by her own hands because of potentially
this rage that she did know how to

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control and is something she has to
live with her for the rest of her

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exactly. I'm not saying she shouldn't
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Absolutely, I do not think that. You know, I guess in Brazil

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it's a three year maximum sentence.
Do I think that she deserves three years

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the maximum? Yes, I do, but I hope in that time that

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she has given the help that she
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have to live with the fact that
she has taken her father's life for the

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rest of her life. She's going
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that for the rest of her life. So I can empathize or sympathize with

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her being a young child and not
understanding the repercussions of her actions. I

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agree because this isn't one of those
cases is where you have like a child's

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killer and they're so evil and they've
had these red flags. Based on my

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account, I mean, the only
I said, the family member said,

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you know, it was puppy love. We thought she'd go out of it.

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None of them ever gave any sort
of red flag in their quotes that

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in those articles like yeah, she
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or that you know, it was
puppy love. So I don't think

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she was a child with behavioral issues
that was like a ticking time bomb.

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I just think this was a girl
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and it results in this, and
she does have to live with that for

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the rest of her life. It's
a terrible tragedy. It is. It's

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really sad. And I'm sorry the
case was so short for you guys,

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but you got kind of like a
case and then you know some dialogue along

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with it, which I don't do
very often where we kind of dissect a

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little bit because usually the case are
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got a little bit of both.
But I'm hoping once we get some more

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patrons on, we can do like
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regular Sunday kind of thing, but
you guys get it live. And again,

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welcome to Jen. We're really excited
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But yeah, and I'm working on
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some retired special agents. We have
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survivor of a crime. So some
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you know if you hadn't heard that
most of those interviews are done on Courtney's

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day off and that is usually during
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want to be there, because some
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