Oct. 30, 2025

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Welcome to The Crypt, where our Crypt Keeper awaits to bring you tales fit for a dark and scary Halloween night. From legends of witches and ghost ships, to the stories of recent memory's most horrific real-life killers, there's plenty to set the mood for a frightful holiday. Featuring some of Darkcast Network's best, we've come together to ring in the season.

Grab your candy, take a seat, and settle in for tales from The Darkcast Crypt Keeper. 


Podcasts Featured:

Rainbow Crimes
The Final Trace
Missing in the PNW
The Book of the Dead
Mythical True Crime
Pod of Terror
Murder in the PNW
Day By Day
Rogue Darkness
Tragedy With A View
The Bell Witch Podcast

If you enjoyed the episode, consider leaving a review or rating! It helps more than you know! 
If you have a case suggestion, or want attention brought to a loved one's case, email me at bookofthedeadpod@gmail.com with Case Suggestion in the subject line.

Stay safe, stay curious, and stay vigilant.

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Dark Cast Network indie pods with a dark side.

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Hello and welcome to Tales of the dark Cast Network's

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Crypt Keeper. I'm your host, Jackie. Join me for this

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heart stopping episode of dark Tales from dark Cast. Please

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step forward into the crypt carefully, keep your hands to

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yourself or they could end up being someone else's. Don't

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touch anything and you might come out of this in

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one piece. I trust that everyone brought a change of clothes.

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You guys may get soiled before this is over. Let's

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begin our first story, shall.

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We ay true Crimers. I'm Hopper Daily, host of the

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Final Trace. Normally I tell a true crime story to

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my best friend Mackenzie. She's the one asking the questions

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you're probably asking at home, or the ones I never

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even thought of. But tonight, for this dark Cast original

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Halloween special, I'm going solo. The story I have for

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you today isn't an urban legend. It's the true story

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of the night Halloween changed forever. I'm your host, Hopper Daily,

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and this is the Final Trace of the Candy Man.

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Every Halloween parents whisper warning, blades and apples, needles and snickers,

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A stranger with a sweet smile and poison candy. Most

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of those fears are just urban legends, But in nineteen

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seventy four, on a cold October night in Texas, one

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of those legends came true. This is the story of

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the Halloween that turned into a nightmare, a story that

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haunted October thirty first for over half a century. Because

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sometimes the truth is darker than the myth. It's October

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thirty first, nineteen seventy four, Deer Park, Texas. Children dart

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from house to house, pillowcases and plastic pumpkins clutched in

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their hands, the sight of glowing jackal landards on every

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porch among them. Timothy O'Brien, eight years old, excited, dressed

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up his little sister Elizabeth, tagging along, Their father takes

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them door to door, joined by a neighbor and his

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two kids. At one darkened house, no one answers the door.

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The kids get bored and run ahead Timothy and Elizabeth's dad.

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He waits, but soon he catches up holding five long

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pixie sticks given to him from the occupant of the

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house that was slow to answer the door. He adds

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one to each child and the last one to a

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child passing by. They all add them to their candy

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hall and continue on with the night. Later back at home,

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Timothy is allowed one last treat before bed. He chooses

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the pixie stick. He struggles to get the powder out

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that had clumped together until his dad helps him out

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and loosens it. Moments after swallowing the powder, Timothy feels sick.

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He holds his stomach and begins to vomit. He cries out, Daddy,

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my stomach hurts before collapsing. By the time they reached

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the hospital, Timothy is gone. Tests showed that the pixie

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sticks were laced with cyanide, enough poison in just two

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inches to killed several adults. Panicky erupts, police scramble. Parents

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tore through trick or treat bags across Houston, terrified that

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their children had been given deadly candy. The press dubbed

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the mystery culprit the man who killed Halloween, because if

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one stranger was handing out poisoned candy, every kid was

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in danger. Investigators rushed to track the source. They questioned neighbors,

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retraced trick or treat routes, candy bags all sourced. They

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finally recovered the other Pixi sticks before any other child

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could eat them. But slowly the story began to shift.

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The evidence didn't point to a stranger lurking in the shadows.

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It pointed to someone much closer. All of the poison

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candy traced back to a single hand, and that hand

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belonged to Timothy's father, Ronald Clark O'Brien, thirty years old,

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an optician by trade, a deacon at the Second Baptist Church.

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Outwardly a steady family man, but beneath that polished exterior,

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his life was crumbling. The bills were piling up. He

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was drowning in debt, so desperate that he began quietly

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taking out life insurance policies on his children. Small amounts

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at first, but over time they grew. By the time

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Halloween rolled around in nineteen seventy four, the combined payout

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reached tens of thousands of dollars, worth well over half

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a million in today's money. To Ronald, those numbers gleamed

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like a lifeline, and on Halloween night, he convinced himself

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he'd found the perfect way out the chaos of trick

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or treating, the flood of candy, the faceless crowds. If

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something went wrong, if a child got sick or died,

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who would ever trace it back to him? That night,

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he slipped cyanide lace pixie sticks into the hands of children,

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one for his son Timothy, one for his daughter, two

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for his neighbor kids, and one to a ten year

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old he recognized from church. Meant scatter suspicion to make

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it look more like the work of a deranged stranger.

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But behind the mask of Halloween, the real monster wasn't

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in the shadows. He was standing in plain sight, a

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father who gambled his own child's life for money. The

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only reason that no one else died was chance. One

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boy fell asleep with a pixie stick unopened beside him.

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Another couldn't get past the staple that Ronald had used

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to reseal it. In the end, fate, not Ronald's mercy,

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kept the body count from rising. A twist of luck,

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a quirk of timing, and four children who never knew

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how close death had come crawling into their Halloween night.

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Ronald was arrested days later. At trial, prosecutors laid it

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all out, the debts, the insurance, the plan. The jury

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took less than an hour to convict him of capital

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murder in nineteen seventy five, Ronald Clark O'Brien was sentenced

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to death. Nearly a decade later, on March thirty first,

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nineteen eighty four, his sentence was carried out. He was

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strapped to the gurney, a needle in his arm, the

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sterile hum of the machines replacing the chaos he had

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once unleashed. Outside the prison that night, crowds of people

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gathered in the night air, their voices cutting through the darkness.

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They weren't there to mourn, They weren't there to pray.

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As the poison flowed into his veins, they shouted into

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the Texas night, trick or treat. Ronald Clark O'Brien will

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always be remembered as the Candyman, the father who poisoned Halloween.

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His crime became a legend, the fuel for whispered warnings

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passed from parent to child every October, candy bags dumped

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onto kitchen tables, wrappers inspected under the glow of a porchlight,

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fear that the Boogeyman was out there slipping poison into sweets.

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But the truth is far darker than the legend, because

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there was no faceless stranger lurking in the night. The monster.

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He wasn't hiding in the shadows. He was standing in

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the doorway, holding his son's hand. For more haunting true

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crime stories that linger in the shadows, follow us on

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Instagram and TikTok at the Final Trace podcast. Find us

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wherever you stream your podcast, and remember, not all secrets

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stay buried.

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Hello and welcome to Day by Day True Crime Stories,

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the podcast where we explore a different crime or justice

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milestone from this day in history. I'm your host ConA Gallagher,

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and today is October thirty first. On this day in

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nineteen eighty two, it was Halloween night in south central Indiana,

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just north of Seymour. Two men left a small house together.

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The next morning, one man one about his normal life.

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The other, twenty four year old Clifford Smith, was gone.

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Days later, his wife filed a missing person's report. A

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month later, two trappers found his body floating in a

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backwater pool off of the White River. For more than

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forty years, the case sat unsolved while rumors floated around

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bars and living rooms across Jackson County. That is until

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a new detective picked up the old file, reopened the

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story and finally gave the Smith family the answers they'd

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waited decades to hear. Today we're talking about the disappearance

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and murder of Clifford Smith and the answers that took

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over four decades to find. Let's get started late on

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October thirtieth, nineteen eighty two. It was Halloween weekend in Seymour, Indiana,

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a small industrial town where everyone seemed to know everyone else.

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That night, a few friends had gathered at a modest

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house on East thirteenth Street for a few drinks and

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a casual weekend get together. Among the people drifting in

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and out that night were Cliff Smith, who was just

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twenty four years old, and his brother in law, Ronald

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jaff Anderson. As the night wound down, Anderson reportedly went

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to go fetch something. Witnesses would later tell police that

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they saw him retrieve a shotgun loaded right there in

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the house, and then walk outside with Cliff. It was

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close to midnight when the two men got into a

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car and drove off, and that was the last time

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anyone saw Cliff Smith alive. By morning, there was no

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sign of him. Sunday came and went, Halloween passed, Cliff's

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wife waited, though, thinking maybe that he'd gone off with

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friends or needed time to cool down after some argument

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that no one quite remembered. But as the days stretched

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on and the silence deepened, her worry gave way to

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full blown panic. On November fourth, nineteen eighty two, she

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went to the Jackson County Sheriff's office and filed a

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missing person's report. Deputies started canvassing, checking the gravel roads

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north of town, knocking on doors and writing down the

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names of everyone who'd been at that East thirteenth Street

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house that night, but no one was talking, not about

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the shotgun or about Cliff leaving with Ronald Anderson. Those

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statements would take decades to make their way to police

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because witnesses were clamming up. There wasn't really anywhere for

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the case to go at that point.

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But then, at about.

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Eight pm on December one, nineteen eighty two, two animal

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trackers working a low, swampy stretch off the White River

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made a horrifying discovery in a shallow flood prone byou.

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They saw something pale floating in the water. When they

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realized what it was, they called state police troopers and

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a coroner waited in under flashlights. The body was dressed

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in blue jeans, a black T shirt, and brown boots.

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In one pocket they found a wallet and an ID card.

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It belonged to Clifford Smith. The body was partially decomposed

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and the top portion of his head was gone. An

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autopsy later found numerous pieces of buckshot and ruled the

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cause of death to be a shotgun wound to the head.

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Local newspapers reported what little they knew. Clifford had last

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been seen on Halloween, his wife had reported him missing

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five days later, and now a month after that, he'd

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been found dead in a backwater just north of Seymour.

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Detectives mapped out the narrow, muddy lane leading from the

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road to the water, marking tire tracks, footprints, anything that

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might still linger in the soft ground. They believed that

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the killer knew the area, and the remote dump site

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wasn't random. That suspicion only deepened as they traced the

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evidence back toward town and to the small house on

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East thirteenth Street, where Clifford had last been seen alive.

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Over the next several months, investigators interviewed witnesses, gathered physical evidence,

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and followed every lead that they could, But like so

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many small town murder cases in the early age, this

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one just hit a wall. There were rumors about a

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fight about money, about a gun, but no one gave

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them anything solid enough to take to a prosecutor, so

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the trail went cold. As years turned into decades, the

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case was passed from one detective to another. Boxes of

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reports and evidence moved from shelves to storage rooms, and

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for over forty years that was the end of the story.

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Then in September twenty fifteen, a veteran detective named Sergeant

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Kip Maine from the Indiana State Police pulled the case

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file off the shelf. Inside were the original nineteen eighty

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two reports, yellow pages, typed on old forms, black and

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white photographs of the recovery site, in a list of

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every interview that had been done that fall. He started reading,

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and then he started over. Unlike the DNA driven cold

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cases that make headlines, this one wasn't solved by new science.

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It was solved by patience and persistence. Maine reinterviewed witnesses,

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He tracked down surviving family members. He compared every statement

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from nineteen eighty two to what people remembered. More than

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thirty years later, one by one, inconsistencies fell away, and

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this time the picture began to come into focus. A

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house on East thirteenth Street, a loaded shotgun, two men

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leaving together, and one gun quietly returned later that night,

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and it all pointed back to Ronald Jack Anderson. By

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twenty twenty three, investigators believed that they finally had enough

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evidence to prove who killed Cliff Smith. On October thirty first,

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twenty twenty three, forty one years to the day after

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Cliff Smith was killed, the Indiana State Police announced that

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they had and arrest. Detectives took sixty one year old

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Ronald Jack Anderson into custody in his home in Seymour

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and charged him with murder. The details hit hard in

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the small town. Not only had Cliffsmith been denied justice

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for over four decades, but the man accused of killing

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him was his own brother in law. Over the next

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year and a half, the case worked its way through

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the courts. In April twenty twenty five, after months of negotiation,

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Anderson pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter as part of the deal.

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The original murder charge was dismissed. A month later, in

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May twenty twenty five, a judge sentenced him to eighteen

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years in prison. For the prosecution, it wasn't about revenge,

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it was about recognition. After four decades, they could finally

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say what happened to Clifford Smith and who was responsible.

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The story that began on a riverbank in nineteen two

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ended in a courtroom more than forty years later. But

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at its heart, this is the story of a twenty

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four year old man who never made it home from

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a Halloween party, and of all of the people who

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never stopped looking for justice. But sometimes justice takes years,

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sometimes it takes lifetimes. But on another Halloween, forty one

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years after the night Clifford Smith vanished, someone was finally

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held accountable.

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Hi.

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I'm Courtney and I am the host of the Book

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of the Dead. And this is the legend of the

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ss Urang Madan. Now some of you may be familiar,

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at least in the abstract of what the ss urrag

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Mundan is. There is a video game by Supermassive Games

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called Man of Madan, and it is based on this legend,

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the story of a ship transporting chemical weaponry. But the

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actual legend is without a doubt Stranger than fiction. It

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may be one of the most mysterious ships of all time,

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and there is a lot of conflicting information out there,

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and we're going to get into why. But supposedly the

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legend goes as follows. Sometime in the late nineteen forties,

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along the Straits of Malacca, which is in between Indonesia,

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Malaysia and Singapore, and SOS broadcast was made. The message

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was received by nearby ships and they were extremely alarmed

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by what they heard. The message said all officers including

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Captain dead lying in chart room and on bridge, probably

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whole crew dead. This message was immediately followed by a

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series of Morse code that no one could make out

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because of how rapid the code was, and then one

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final message came through in the office Sir said, I

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die now. Obviously, the ships that received this transmission were

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more than concerned for multiple reasons, and one of the

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main ones was that the crew members sending out this

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SOS gave no indication as to what caused the death

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of the crew, what their coordinates were, or what sort

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of danger these crew members were in. So the ships

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sailing out to rescue them were going in completely blind.

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According to what seems to be the original legend, an

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American ship called the Silver Star was the ship that

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answered the distress call and organized a rescue mission. They

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figure out the approximate coordinates of the ship's location, and

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they immediately set sail into the unknown, not knowing what

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horrors could be awaiting them aboard the Urang Madan. Supposedly,

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they arrive and when they call out to the ship,

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there is no answer, no movement on the ship. So

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the captain of the Silver Star organizes a crew to

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board the urang Madan and help them. When this rescue

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crew gets onto the ship, they are met with a

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terrifying sight. Not one single sailor is alive. Everyone is dead,

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and they are all exactly a waere. The man that

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made the distress call said they would be the chart room,

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the bridge, the officer that made the broadcast is dead

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in the radio room, and every single person on the

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ship is lying there with their eyes looking up, their

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faces turned to the sun, frozen in fear, their teeth

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bared in horror. Even the ship's dog is dead, frozen

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mid snarl. According to the original legend, Allegedly, as the

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rescue crew was looking around trying to figure out what happened?

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A fire was discovered in the bowels of the ship,

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smoke billowing out of the cargo hold. The rescue crew

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abandons the ship, and as they flee back to the

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Silver Star, an explosion erupts so forcefully that the Urang

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Madan was literally lifted out of the water before sinking

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to the bottom of the ocean floor. But what happened,

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how did the crew die and how did the fire start?

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Is this even a real story or is it a

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ghost story crewman made up to pass the time that

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morphed into a horrifying mystery. According to multiple sources, there

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is allegedly no mention of a ship called the Urang

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Madan in any shipping registry, and there is no official

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record of this incident from the nineteen forties when this

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allegedly occurred. However, various versions of this story have been

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printed in newspapers from the nineteen fifties onward. Now, one

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of the theories as to why there's no mention of

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this ship in any registry is because it's a ship

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that was registered as belonging to the island of Sumatra,

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which is an island off western Indonesia. The reason people

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believe this could be a possibility is because urang Madan

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translates to Man from Midan and Midan is the capital

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of North Sumatra. Now, according to German researcher Professor Theodore Syersdorffer,

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he discovered a German publication from nineteen fifty three called

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Dos tolten Schiffen Dersutzi or the Death Ship in the

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South Seas. This was written by a man named Otto Melki,

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and it is believed to contain evidence that the ship

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and what happened to it was a real event. Now. Allegedly,

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this claims that the ship's cargo Holt contained potassium cyanide

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and nitroglycerine. If it did, this could explain the explosion

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if the containers were compromised or mishandled in some way,

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and it could explain why the ship's legitimacy is so iffy,

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because the ship would never have legally been able to

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transport something like that. The reason being was because tensions

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during World War II, when this incident was supposed to

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have occurred, was very high, and sensitive materials being transported

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and used inappropriately or maliciously would cause a lot of

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problems internationally, which is a reason why the ship's records

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are so hard to find or have never been found.

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According to Michael East, a history and true crime writer,

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he said nobody came forward to say they knew the

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ship or had served on her. Equally, the inconsistent dates

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constantly stand out, as does the changing location. Mentions of

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the fate of the Irangmudan have been found in publications

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scattered from nineteen thirty to nineteen forties, and every one

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of them have details. Changed locations vary from the Solomon

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Islands to the Marshall Islands and even the ship that

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tried to rescue them. Berries researcher Estelle Hargraves found quotes

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from the nineteen forties in British national newspapers from British

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marine officers describe being a distress call requesting a Medican warship.

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In these newspaper articles also claimed that it was a

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British ship that attempted a rescue mission, not the Silver Star.

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Articles found by Estelle Hargraves in the Yorkshire Evening Posts,

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the Daily Mirror and the Hampshire Telegraph claim this accident

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occurred in November of nineteen forty and they placed it

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occurring in the Solomon Islands in the Melanesian region of

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the Pacific Ocean. In the Yorkshire Evening Post. Their information

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is supposedly from an officer from an unnamed ship that

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tried to come to the Urangmdan's aid. Now Allegedly, according

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to author Alexander Butzig, who wrote the book The urrag Madan,

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Conjuring a Ghost Ship, he found an article from a

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French magazine from September seventh, nineteen forty one, that claims

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this incident occurred in nineteen thirty nine, and it places

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the location as being around Fiji and the ship was

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supposedly an Australian ship that had been sold to a

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smuggler and was smuggling a lee cargo. However, Michael East

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blames the changing details on a reporter named Silvio O'shrelli.

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Silvio Sherelli is a name heavily attached to the Urang story.

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Silvio wrote and published his own version of the Urang

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Madan story after allegedly coming across the survivor that washed

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up on the shores of Tanji Atoll in the Marshall

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Islands in nineteen forty eight. A Dutch Indonesian newspaper The

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Locomotif published the story where Silvio claimed he was told

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the ship was traveling to Costa Rica from a Chinese

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port because of the illegal cargo they were carrying, which

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was sulfuric acid. Supposedly, this survivor's name was Jerry Rabbit.

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According to Jerry, he washed up on the shore of

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the Marshall Islands ten days after the Urang Madan sank

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in a lifeboat with six other crew members, but he

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was the only survivor. Rabbit made it to a missionary

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and reportedly told them that he joined the Ummdan's crew

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in Shanghai and the crew was loading fifteen thousand crates

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of mysterious cargo into the bowels of the ship. He

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claimed that after they set sail to Costa Rica, he

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realized that this was a smuggling operation. According to this report,

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Jerry said that after men on the crew started growing sick,

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he investigated what the ship was carrying and he found

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out via a log book that the crates they were

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transporting contained sulfuric acid, potassium cyanide, and nitroglycerine. After men

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started dying, Jerry escaped on the lifeboat, and he allegedly

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died himself soon after telling the story. The problem is

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there is no mention of Jerry Rabbit existing at all

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outside of this article. This article claims the cargo was

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mishandled or not stored properly, and the escaping fumes caused

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the crew's death and caused the explosion. Now toxic fumes

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killing the crew is the most common theory, with minor differences.

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Some claimed the fumes alone killed them, and some claimed

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the fumes caused horrific hallucinations that literally scared these crew

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members to death. Another theory points to a pirate attack, which,

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given the time this would have occurred, could have been

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a possibility except for the fact that the bodies on

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board reportedly showed no injuries. A different article by Les

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Hewett claims that the incident occurred either June nineteen forty

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seven or February nineteen forty eight, but none of these

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states were consistent. According to this article, two ships picked

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up the distress call from the Urang Madan, the Silver Star,

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and the SS City of Baltimore. With the help of

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a Dutch ship and a British listening post, they were

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able to figure out the coordinates of the urrang Madan

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and the Silver Star set out on a rescue mission.

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The urang Madan was found around one hundred and fifty

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miles from the broadcast coordinates. Now according to this article,

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the rescue crew noticed a few other things besides the

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deceased crew. One of the lifeboats attached to the side

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of the ship was missing, which means, or at least implies,

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that some of the crew managed to get off the ship.

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The temperature of the ship itself was somewhere between one

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hundred and one hundred and ten degrees, but the rescue

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crew felt an unnatural chill, seemingly coming from nowhere. The

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bodies of the crew were unwounded, but they seemed to

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be decaying faster than they should be, though if the

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ship was that hot, it would accelerate decomposition. However, there

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are some glaring issues with these dates. For the articles

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claiming the Silver Star was the ship to come to

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the rescue, It's not possible because the ship that was

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named the Silver Star was not called that until after

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this incident supposedly happened. The ship was registered under the

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name Santo Juana and the name wasn't changed until the

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Graceline Shipping Company bought the rights to the ship's registry

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and changed the name. In fact, the ship was only

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called the Silver Star for about one year before the

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name changed again. Now, the Urang Madan was completely un damaged,

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so they were going to tow the ship back to

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Port to salvage it when they noticed smoke coming from

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the cargo Holt Also according to this article, the first

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official mention of this incident is from the US Coast

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Guard in May of nineteen fifty two. Another theory has

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to do with chemical warfare. According to this theory, the

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Japanese might have smuggled experimental biological weaponry they created onto

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the ship for transport. This was called Unit seven thirty one,

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and this theory goes on to say that the Japanese

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aim to create the most dangerous weapon in order to

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achieve Japanese supremacy. Allegedly, Unit seven thirty one was developed

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in nineteen thirty two by a Japanese bacterioologist named shiro Ishi,

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who conducted horrific experiments during World War II, which is

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an entire story in and of itself. The last mention

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of the ss Urang Madan comes from a letter written

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by a man named C. H. Mark in summer nineteen

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fifty nine. This letter was written to Alan Doules, the

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assistant director of the CIA, and in the letter, H.

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Mark claims that he has evidence that the Urrang Madan

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existed and that its demise came from great balls of

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fire in the sky, and he wanted confirmation that he

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was correct, But mister Doules only replied, thank you for

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your inquiry. As for the final resting place of the

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Urang Madan, no one has ever figured out where it sank.

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There had been no wrecks found along the streets of Malaka,

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and no identified ships matching its description were ever found.

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No one knows or may ever know, if the urrag

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Madans truly existed, But if it did, the ocean took

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its secrets to the very depths where no one may

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ever find it again. I'm Courtney from the Book of

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the Dead.

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Hi everyone, I'm Pat and I'm Darcy and we are

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the hosts of Pod of Sarah. Welcome everyone to the

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darkst Netbook Halloween Special A lots of really really good

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stories for you the spooky Halloween, and we're here with

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one of those two. Halloween Night in twenty eleven was

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not a fun one for first responders in Chicago. When

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the police arrived at an address in Winchester Avenue, the

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paramedics were already there trying to help forty nine year

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old Maria Adams. There was a loss of blood everywhere,

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broken dishes, and three knives in the sink. Maria was

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found face down, having suffered multiple lacerations and puncture wounds

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to her the face and hands, and altogether she had

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00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.759
over twenty stab wounds and lacerations, some of which led

467
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.799
investigators to believe that they had been carried out by

468
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.599
someone holding two knives, one in each hand. So think

469
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:46.279
like fucking windmill situation when you literally go in us, right, Yeah, so.

470
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.359
That's quite dramatic. Yeah.

471
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.279
Yeah. There were also injuries to her head, so she

472
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.599
was either stomped on or had her head slammed on

473
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:59.400
the floor, So really, really violent. Unfortunately, Maria died almost

474
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.920
a week later on the fifth of November. All of

475
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:07.519
this has happened because of a bag of Halloween candy. No, yeah,

476
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.000
it's about to get weird.

477
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:10.240
Everyone.

478
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.839
The Dell People's met Maria Adams in two thousand and seven.

479
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.480
According to him, he'd give her money and gifts in

480
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.319
exchange for sex, and she would sometimes spend the night

481
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.000
at his place. So I don't know the exact nature

482
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.920
of this relationship, but it seems very transactional race. But yeah,

483
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:29.119
this seems to this seemed to have had like some

484
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.119
sort of arrangements and adults, right, do what you wanted

485
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.640
to do what you want exactly, yeah, exactly. So maybe

486
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.920
she just yeah, maybe she. I don't know what the

487
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:39.839
fuck is going on here, but yeah, they knew each other.

488
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:41.880
They would kind of bonk and he would like give

489
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.079
her dinner. I don't know standard right. So that Halloween,

490
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.400
Liddell noticed that a bag of his candy was missing,

491
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.680
and he was really mad because it wasn't the first

492
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.880
time things would kind of disappear when Maria was around.

493
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.519
So she confronted her and she denied having seen it anyway.

494
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:00.880
She was like, don't know what you're talking about. May

495
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:01.359
you're tripping.

496
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.400
But to be fair, if my baggy of candy was missing,

497
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.079
being I'd be I'd be upset.

498
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:06.640
There would be.

499
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.799
Words, yes, for sure, yea one hundred percent. But yeah,

500
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:11.200
she was like, I don't know, I've never seen it

501
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.079
what you're talking about. Well, he apparently found it in

502
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.880
her coat pocket. Oh she did take it, did take it? Well,

503
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.480
allegedly she took it, that's what he said. So, yeah,

504
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.319
it's unclear exactly like what happened here, like how the

505
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.319
fight started. But at some point Maria threw a plate

506
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.960
at Laddell and hit him right above his right eye,

507
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.720
and in a man shot, you're can see he's got

508
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.720
like a nasty little gash above his eyebrow. But you know,

509
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.880
is it It's possible he lunched at her first syndication

510
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.880
and she just basically threw a plate to defend herself.

511
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:43.720
We don't really know.

512
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:47.319
He claims some other things we don't know, but he

513
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.759
claimed that she threw it unprovoked, like just susprandomly decided

514
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.359
to throw a place at him. Apparently. I don't know

515
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:54.720
about that.

516
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:56.799
I don't think so bulky, okay, let's with.

517
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:59.759
That, right, Yeah, and that made him mad, apparently, so

518
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.839
he's started walking towards her, and that's when she grabbed

519
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.319
two steak knives. He wrestled them away from her, and

520
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.920
then he managed to wrestle her to the ground and

521
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.920
began swinging the knives, aiming for the face, like you know,

522
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.480
with both his hands, just like she going at it

523
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.240
obviously fucking awful. He stopped when she turned over and

524
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.720
stopped fighting back, but she just got quiet.

525
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.000
He was like, all right, it's believed that.

526
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.759
He then grabbed her by the hair and slammed her

527
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:30.519
head into the ground three times. She was moaning, and

528
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.799
he said that he didn't know if she was faking

529
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:33.119
it or what.

530
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:33.440
Do you know?

531
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.279
The thembities can't be trustd to can they like?

532
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.200
Is she actually dying or not? I don't know.

533
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.039
Wait, I just slammed her head a few times, did you.

534
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:42.160
Right?

535
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:42.920
Whatever? Man?

536
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.119
Yeah, So he wasn't sure if she was pretending she

537
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.519
was whatever the fuck he claims, what's happening? I don't know.

538
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.440
He then stomped on her back, sorry, on the back

539
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.640
of her head once more, grabs the biggest knife from

540
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:58.400
the kitchen drawer and then poked her with it, basically

541
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.960
like you're alive, you were alive, if you will laugh,

542
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.640
just to see if she moves, or if she talks,

543
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:06.039
or if anything happens. Of course, she didn't move. Ladell

544
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.920
considered dumping her somewhere outside. He was like, I can

545
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.599
just kind of get rid of her, can't I just

546
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.440
to whatever find a body. But because they'd had sex

547
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.760
earlier that night, like literally an hour earlier, he thought

548
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.320
that the cops would find them anyway, they would connect it,

549
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.360
like connect her body to him. So he was like, nah,

550
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.400
I don't want anyone to think I raped her.

551
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:25.639
You know.

552
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.360
He didn't want that fucking charge on top of everything else.

553
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.400
So he was like, I'd better just like not do

554
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.480
that because I don't know. I imagine thinking that his DNA

555
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.280
sample or details were already somewhere in the bully system,

556
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:40.400
that kind of line of thinking.

557
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.679
But you know, also, you're going to get that mad

558
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.639
over a bag of candy. You must have a problems before,

559
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.199
do you know. I mean, something's going on here.

560
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.599
I have no idea, mate, But yeah, he was like, no,

561
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.119
I'm not gonna just dump dump her because I don't

562
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:55.599
want another right of rape charge for something I didn't do, because.

563
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.599
I'm not that kind of man. You know, I'm not raping.

564
00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.599
It interesting that you went there. So instead he got

565
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.519
dressed and he called no one one. When the police

566
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.000
officers got there, they kind of thought that he seemed

567
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.239
all right, like he seemed together. There was no dramatics,

568
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.159
there was no theatrics. He was just kind of, you know,

569
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.679
just just a guy, just a guy sitting on the

570
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.719
front porch, basically waiting for them. Yeah, he was absolutely fine.

571
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.920
He told them he didn't want to hurt her. It

572
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.320
was self defense. Basically, she was holding the knives and

573
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.800
when she hit him with the plate, he would he

574
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.559
like saw his own blood on his fingers, and he

575
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.719
really freaked out, and that's when it kind of lost

576
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.679
control and he kind of went for it. Later during

577
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.880
the trial, he claimed that he didn't remember saying anything

578
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.719
about all of that, or saying anything about slamming her

579
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.199
head into the ground or considering hiding her body, which

580
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.800
is what he fucking told them when they first arrested him.

581
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:49.000
But he was like, I don't remember saying that.

582
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.639
No, I didn't say that. If I don't remember, it

583
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:51.199
didn't happen.

584
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.559
My Lloyd told me it was a bad idea, So no,

585
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:55.880
I don't remember in it.

586
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.280
And then he said in course that in fact, at

587
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.280
the time of that incident, he was actually falling in

588
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.480
love with her. He didn't want her to get hurt.

589
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.239
He loved her.

590
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.000
Yeah, so Ladell was facing charges of first degree murder

591
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:15.119
and aggravated domestic battery. He pleaded not guilty because you know,

592
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.679
he was a self defense he loved her. He was

593
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.880
of course found guilty and sentenced to thirty years in prison,

594
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:25.079
and the sentence was then appealed. Basically, his defense claimed

595
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.760
that at twenty nine he was fifty five and some

596
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.639
of the incident at twenty nine he was diagnosed with schizophrenia,

597
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.360
and so a psychiatrist's statement should have been allowed, and

598
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.119
they argued for a lesser sentence of second degree murder

599
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:40.079
because of that that he was little, he was mentally ill.

600
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.960
That makes sense, Yeah, yeah, Well, in the end they

601
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.360
kind of there was a bit of you know, pushing

602
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.079
and pulling and all that, all of that, but the

603
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.159
courts decided that if it's irrelevant actually because the state

604
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:54.280
of Illinois doesn't recognize diminished responsibility defense, they just don't

605
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.280
fucking buy that. They don't believe they don't do it.

606
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.440
If anything, they would have to go for insanity defense,

607
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.840
which they so you know, they were like, we don't

608
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.960
do that here, darling, Bye bye. For the next thirty years,

609
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.760
Laddell like good luck to you and the psychiatrist, doctor Harlan,

610
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.440
said that Laddell suffered from schizo effective disorder, paraloid schizophrenia,

611
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.960
cognitive disorder, and cocaine abuse and a very very strong

612
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:24.960
addiction to candy apparently. So there you have it, a

613
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:28.039
story about a man who killed his missus or whoever

614
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:29.960
the fact she was to him over a bag of

615
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:30.800
god dun candy.

616
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.440
I mean, honestly, at your grown age, you shouldn't be

617
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.360
that sad. You shouldn't have treated this kind of ft,

618
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.559
honestly like, I'm sure it sounds to me like that

619
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.400
perhaps was violence in this kind of scenario before.

620
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.280
These sound like people who have some sort of they are.

621
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:48.920
Damaged, I think, but cocaine abuse, I'm sure that's not

622
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.480
fucking helpful in any case anyway. But yeah, just a

623
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.840
really horrendous how things can escalate over such a mind

624
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:57.960
and minor thing that you would never even I mean,

625
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:58.280
would you.

626
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.960
Kill over a bag of candy. I don't think I'll

627
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.679
be touching anyone's candy. Keep your fucking to yourselves.

628
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.599
That's a lesson from today. Don't steal Halloween candy because

629
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.880
look how it might end up. So that's our lesson

630
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:10.360
for tonight.

631
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.039
Have you ever had your Halloween candy stolen?

632
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:15.519
No?

633
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.559
I mean I don't really, I've never really done it.

634
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.760
It's not a thing really, No. Yeah, these days, I

635
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.800
tried to have a couple of bigers of candy and

636
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.440
just like give it to the kids. But a lot

637
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:25.039
of the time they.

638
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.440
Just pends on the area that because there's some parts

639
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.760
on London where they actually make an effort.

640
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.559
But it's definitely a very American.

641
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:33.679
Thing is it's not so big here.

642
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.519
But one time when we were kids, right, we went

643
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.639
on we really wanted to do trick and treating, so

644
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:40.480
we're like, come, let's try it out. And then my

645
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:42.000
little brother came with me as well, and he was

646
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.239
wearing like a really scary mask. And the area we

647
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.599
grew up in there was zero Halloween anything on there.

648
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:50.559
There were nobody at decorations. It wasn't a thing.

649
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.599
Yeah, So we went to our neighbors and one of

650
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.000
our neighbors, like most of them didn't even answer.

651
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:55.639
Some of them did it.

652
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:57.880
They were like oh no, Like they were giving us

653
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.400
whatever they could find, like biscuits are parts for them.

654
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.639
Literally, They're like, oh no, idea.

655
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.039
I think one family were having a wedding, so they

656
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.840
had theirs and they gave us some nice that's look.

657
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.280
Most people were just like trying to like felt bad

658
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.599
and gave us things. One time, one of the houses

659
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.480
we went to, the lady had obviously had no idea

660
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:16.559
it was a Halloween or anything.

661
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.440
She's on the third she answered the door. My brother's

662
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:19.519
standing right there with the mask.

663
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.239
She fully like, she got so panicked she fell to

664
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.440
the ground.

665
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:29.440
This is what happens when you do Halloween and places.

666
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.119
We were like super apologetic, and she's like, it's okay,

667
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.239
it's okay, Now I have to find something to give you, guys,

668
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:35.880
and then she just went running into a kitchen.

669
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.320
That just means the costume was great.

670
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.480
Yes, candy was well deserved.

671
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:41.400
Thank you very much for that.

672
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:41.719
Guys.

673
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:44.519
Thank you for listening. We hope you enjoy your spooky,

674
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.400
spooky season and enjoy all the other stories from Dark

675
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.159
Cast Network. Give all of them a go. They're all fantastic.

676
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:53.440
We've been Pat and Darcy post of Pot of Sarah.

677
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.960
Thank you very much for listening, and enjoy the rest

678
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:56.679
of your Halloween.

679
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:01.000
Here everyone, I'm Charmeta and I I host the podcast

680
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:05.199
called Missing in the PMW. I focus on missing person

681
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.719
cases right here in the Pacific Northwest where I grew up,

682
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.800
and all of my missing persons are from marginalized communities.

683
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:18.920
The PNW has some of the most haunted places. Today,

684
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.320
I am going to take you on a tour of

685
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.440
three of the most haunted places in my home state

686
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:31.639
of Oregon. The first stop is Multnomah Falls, one of

687
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.400
the most popular tour spots in Oregon, is a half

688
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.760
hour drive east of where I grew up in Portland.

689
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.639
On I eighty four, going towards the Columbia River Gorge,

690
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.199
you will run into science for Mulnoma Falls, a six

691
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:51.519
hundred and twenty foot high, two tier beautiful waterfall.

692
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.000
It is the tallest waterfall in.

693
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:59.000
Oregon, the most heiked, and draws nearly two million visitors

694
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:03.400
per year. But what many people may not know is

695
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:08.199
actually has a haunted past. My grandma actually told me

696
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.679
and my siblings' story growing up, as it is an

697
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.159
old Native American tell and if you heard my podcast before,

698
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.719
you'd know I'm half Mexican and half Native American. The

699
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.760
story goes that long ago, a deadly illness ravaged a

700
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:27.679
local Native village. An elder spoke to the tribe and

701
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.760
said that the only way the illness could be stopped

702
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.400
was by the sacrifice of a maiden of noble honor.

703
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.760
The village's chief had a daughter. She took it upon

704
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.360
herself to sacrifice herself to spare her people. She climbed

705
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.320
to the top where the waterfall now is and jumped off,

706
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.480
giving herself for her village. With that sacrifice, her village

707
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.000
was cleansed, and the waterfall was created by a spirit

708
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:59.480
so that her people would always remember her courage, and

709
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.960
so that the midst of the waterfall would cleanse and hill.

710
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.840
Those who visited the site.

711
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.599
If you look closely, many people say that you can

712
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:12.239
see the young woman's face in the waterfall. Most commonly

713
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.840
you can see her in the water in the wintertime.

714
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.920
I've actually seen her spirit, or the face of her

715
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.360
spirit in the waterfall myself. I am not taking you

716
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.719
to the oron coast thirteen miles north of a little

717
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.280
town called Florence, where atop a two hundred and five

718
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.800
foot headland stands the fifty six foot tall Hasida Head Lighthouse.

719
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:41.679
Over the years, many men would keep the lighthouse running

720
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.440
and just up the hill from the lighthouse was an

721
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:48.760
actual house that their families could stay in. One particular

722
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:53.159
member of one particular family is said to have never left.

723
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.360
Many call her the Gray Lady, but for the last

724
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.440
couple of decades she has been.

725
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:03.480
Known as Room are you? At least?

726
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.280
That is the name a couple of lame community college

727
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.880
kids gave her after they decided to play within Luigi

728
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:16.639
board in the house good Oldwichi boards right. Legend has

729
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:20.320
it that Rue's husband was a lighthouse keeper and had

730
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:26.559
two daughters. One of her daughters unfortunately drowned, although it's

731
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.159
not mentioned if her daughter drowned in the house or

732
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.679
if her daughter drowned in the ocean while her husband

733
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:38.480
and other daughter moved on. She however, did not. And

734
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.440
she's not a mean ghost by any means, but she

735
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:42.559
must likes to play.

736
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:43.159
Pranks on people.

737
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:48.639
She will rearrange furniture, move guests belongings, and she's even

738
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:49.840
known to clean up the place.

739
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.239
Hey, who doesn't like a ghost as clean?

740
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.599
She is not just in the house either, though, with

741
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:57.760
some settings of her inside.

742
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.440
The actual lighthouse that actually makes me.

743
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.039
Believe that she's looking out over to the Pacific Ocean.

744
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:08.000
With that, I believe If the story is true, her

745
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:12.800
daughter unfortunately died and drowned in the Pacific Ocean. The

746
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.280
last haunted place we are going is three hundred miles

747
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.960
from Portland and far eastern Oregon to a place called

748
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.320
Baker City, which is home to the Grand Geyser Hotel.

749
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:28.280
One of the most prominent ghosts is the Lady in Blue.

750
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:29.480
She is believed to be.

751
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:33.880
A former owner, possibly named Grandma Annabelle, who is seen

752
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:38.400
in mirrors walking downstairs and sitting in room three h two.

753
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.519
Not to be confused by that creepy little doll annabel

754
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.039
totally completely different. There are also a bunch of sightings

755
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.719
of many unknown male entities, ladies in red, and even

756
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.320
a headless cook. What would a hand hotel be without

757
00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:01.679
some spooky salads, right, guess how reported hearing disembodied voices,

758
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.760
a woman screaming, laughter.

759
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:06.280
And footsteps.

760
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:12.960
Guests have also seen lights, flickering, doors opening and closing

761
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:18.039
by themselves, and objects moving on their own. Now, not

762
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.800
all the paranormal going on in the hotel is screamy.

763
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:23.800
Some of the workers at the hotel say that they

764
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.239
can hear loud music coming from the upper floors and

765
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.440
the attic and they believe the ghosts are up there

766
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.480
having a party and they just don't disturb them.

767
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:35.960
Guess you gotta have fun in the afterlife too, right.

768
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.840
That is all I have for you today, And I

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00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.400
just want to give a shout out to CJ and

770
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.840
all of my other Dark Cast members. I'm so excited

771
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:53.199
to be a part of this Hearer's Dark Cast Halloween episode.

772
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.000
And I hope you catch Missing in the PNW. I

773
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:01.119
am on all the streaming platforms. You can catch me

774
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.719
on Facebook or Instagram at Missing in the PNW podcast

775
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:07.239
and I.

776
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:08.920
Will talk to you next time.

777
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:14.880
Guys, Happy Halloween and remember have fun but be safe.

778
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:17.719
Good evening listeners.

779
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:18.880
My name is DJ.

780
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.679
I'm the host of the mythical true crime podcast. Tonight,

781
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.599
we're going to hear about one of the most infamous

782
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.960
killers that has spawned multiple copycats and has inspired pop

783
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:34.920
culture films and television shows, most recently Netflix's Monsters, the

784
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:40.920
Ed Geen Story. Edward Theodore Gean was born in Lacrosse County, Wisconsin,

785
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:45.519
late August August twenty seventh, nineteen o six. He was

786
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.719
the second of two sons from George gen and Augusta Gean,

787
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.639
now the Gan's only sibling he had was an older

788
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:56.639
brother named Henry Augusta. His mother, who was feveritely religious

789
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.360
and nominally Lutheran, frequently preached to her sons about the

790
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.800
innate immorality of the world, such as the evils of

791
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.920
drinking and her belief that all women were naturally promiscuous

792
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.519
and instruments of the devil. She reserved every afternoon to

793
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.800
read from the Bible, usually selecting verses from Old Testament

794
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:21.719
to the Book of Revelation concerning death, murder, and divine retribution.

795
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:27.400
Edward idolized and eventually became obsessed with his mother. In Lacrosse,

796
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.079
Gaines's father worked as a carpenter, tanner, and a firefighter.

797
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.679
He also owned a local grocery store, but soon sold

798
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.119
his business and left the city with his family to

799
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.440
live on a one hundred and fifty five acre farm

800
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.480
in the town of Plainfield, Wisconsin, which became their permanent residence.

801
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.239
Gaines's father was known to be a violent alcoholic who

802
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.079
regularly beat both of his sons. This caused Ed's ears

803
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.199
to ring when his father beat him over the head.

804
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.159
Augusta took advantage of the farm's isolation by turning away

805
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.280
outsiders who could have influenced her sons. Edward left the

806
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.559
farm only to attend school, and outside of school, he

807
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:07.960
spent most of his time doing chores on the farm.

808
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:12.039
He was very shy. Classmates and teachers remembered him as

809
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:16.679
having strange mannerisms, such as seemingly random laughter, as if

810
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:20.719
he was laughing at his own personal jokes. Augusta punished

811
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.840
Edward every time he tried to make friends. According to

812
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.280
family acquaintances, despite his poor social development, Edward was fairly

813
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.559
well in school, particularly at reading. Now On April one,

814
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:36.440
nineteen forty, the game brother's father had a fatal heart

815
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.360
attack at the age of sixty six. Ed and his

816
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.119
brother were doing odd jobs around town to help cover

817
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:46.280
living expenses. The brothers were generally considered reliable and honest

818
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.400
to the rest of the community. While both worked as handymen,

819
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.800
Ed frequently babysat for neighbors, seemingly to relate more easily

820
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.519
to children than to adults. Henry began dating a woman

821
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.000
who was a divorcee with two children of her own,

822
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.840
and planned to move in with her. He worried that

823
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.599
his brother's attachment to their mother, and often spoke ill

824
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.719
of her around Edward, who always responded with shock and hurt. However,

825
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:14.199
on May sixteenth, nineteen forty four, ed was burning away

826
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.360
most of the marsh vegetation on the property, and this

827
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.360
caused a fire to go out of control, drawing an

828
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.639
attention of the local fire department. By the end of

829
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.320
that day, the fire had it been extinguished and the

830
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:32.000
firefighters left. However, ed reported Henry missing with lanterns and flashlights.

831
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.199
A search party searched for the forty three year old Henry,

832
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:39.280
whose dead body was found lying face down. Apparently Henry

833
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:42.119
had been dent for some time, didn't seem to be

834
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.679
caused by the fire. However, it did appear that the

835
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.920
cause of death was heart failure. It was later reported

836
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.079
by a biographer that Henry had bruises on his head.

837
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.960
Police dismissed the possibility of foul play, and the county

838
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.039
coroner listed it as as pphyxiation as the cause of death.

839
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.639
The authorities accepted the accident theory, but there was no

840
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:06.440
official investigation conducted in the autopsy was never performed. Questioning

841
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.000
ed about the death of Bernice Warden in nineteen fifty seven,

842
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:14.920
state investigator Joe Wilhelmonsky brought up questions about Henry's death

843
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:18.280
to him. George Arndt, who studied the case, wrote later

844
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.760
in retrospect that it was possibly unlikely that Henry's death

845
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.559
was sort of a canaan able aspect, and Ed was

846
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.440
the one that carried out the murder. With Henry deceased,

847
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.239
Ed and his mother were now alone. Augusta suffered a

848
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.840
paralyzing stroke shortly after Henry's death, and Ed devoted the

849
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:39.800
rest of himself for her terror. Sometime in nineteen forty five,

850
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.519
he later recounted that he and his mother visited a

851
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:46.400
man named Smith who lived nearby, to purchase straw. According

852
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.440
to Edward, Augusta witnessed Smith beating a dog, and a

853
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.880
woman inside the smith residence came out and yelled him

854
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.440
to stop, but Smith went ahead to beat the dog

855
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.599
literally to death. Augusta was extremely upset by this scene,

856
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.800
father her most didn't appear to be the brutality towards

857
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.400
a dog, but rather the presence of the woman there.

858
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.519
Augusta then later told ed that the woman was not

859
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.280
married to Smith, so had no business of even being there.

860
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.840
Angrily calling her Smith's harlot, she suffered a second stroke

861
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:21.719
soon after, and her health deteriorated rapidly. Augusta died on

862
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.320
December twenty ninth, nineteen forty five, at the age of

863
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.039
only sixty seven. Edward, devastated by the death of his

864
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:31.760
mother and the words of his biographer, only had his

865
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.760
friend and his only true love gone, he was absolutely

866
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.880
alone in the world. Now, ed held on to the

867
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:42.119
farm and earned money again doing odd jobs. He boarded

868
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.119
up rooms used by his mother, including the upstairs and

869
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.159
downstairs parlor, and the living room, leaving them seemingly untouched

870
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:53.480
while the rest of the house became increasingly squaddled. These

871
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.039
rooms became pristine. Ed lived in the small room next

872
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.320
to the kitchen. Around this time he began interested in

873
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:06.039
reading pulp magazines and adventure stories, particularly those involving cannibals

874
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:11.159
or Nazi atrocities, specifically concerning Ilsa Cooke, who had been

875
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.800
accused of selecting tattooed prisoners for death to a fashion

876
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.280
lampshades and other items of their skins. In nineteen fifty one,

877
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.000
Edwards started receiving a farm subsidy from the federal government.

878
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.719
He still worked occasionally at the local municipal rail crew

879
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:31.920
and crop threshing crews up in Plainfield area. However, sometime

880
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.679
between nineteen forty six and nineteen fifty six, he had

881
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.639
then sold an additional eighty acre parcel of his land.

882
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.039
On the morning of November fifteenth, nineteen fifty seven, fifty

883
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:47.880
eight year old plain Filled hardware store owner Beernice Warden

884
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.039
was reported disappeared. The hardware store's truck had been seen

885
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.079
driving out of the rear of the building at around

886
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.360
nine thirty am that day. The store saw very few

887
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.039
customers the entire day, and some area residents believed that

888
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.880
this was because it was deer hunting season. Warden's son,

889
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:09.639
Deputy sheriff Frank Warden, entered the store around five pm

890
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:12.840
to find the cast register open with bloodstains on the floor.

891
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.639
Frank told investigators that the evening before his mother's disappearance,

892
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:20.760
Gean had been seen at the store and was expecting

893
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.400
to return the next morning for a gallon of antifreeze.

894
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:27.159
A sales slip of the antifreeze was the last receipt

895
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.320
written by Pernice Warden on the morning that she disappeared.

896
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:36.079
That evening, Gean was arrested at West Playfield grocery store,

897
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:41.039
and the Sheriff's department searched his farm. The sheriff deputy

898
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:44.599
discovered not just Warden's decapitated body in the shed of

899
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:47.679
Gean's property, who was also hung upside down by her

900
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.760
legs in a cross bar between her ankles and ropes

901
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.519
at her wrists. Her torso had been, in his words,

902
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.519
dressed like a deer. Warden had been shot with a

903
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:01.239
twenty two caliber rifle, and the mutilation were made after

904
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:06.679
her death. Searching Gain's house, authorities found multiple artifacts such

905
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:10.440
as a whole human bones and fragments of skeletons, a

906
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:14.679
waste basket made of human skin, human skin covering several chairs,

907
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:18.920
a human skull mounted on bedposts, female skulls on top

908
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.559
of some top sawn off bowls made from human skulls,

909
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:26.119
a corset made from a human torso, skin from shoulders

910
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:30.239
to waist, leggings made from human leg skin, masks made

911
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.280
of skin from female heads, Mary Hogan's face mask on

912
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.679
a paper bag. Mary Hogan's skull was inside of a box.

913
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.320
Bernice Holden's entire head was inside of a burlap sack,

914
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:43.840
as well as her heart in a plastic bag in

915
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:47.719
front of Gen's potbelly stove, nine volvas inside of a

916
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.559
shoe box, a young girl's dress and two volvas from

917
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.800
two females judged to be about fifteen years old. A

918
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.320
belt made from female human nipples, four noses, a pair

919
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.519
of lips with a window shade drawstrain in a lamp

920
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:07.400
shade made from the skin of a human face. These

921
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.960
artifacts were photographed at the State Crime Laboratory and then

922
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:16.159
decently disposed of. One question. Gaine told investigators that between

923
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.800
nineteen forty seven and nineteen fifty two he had made

924
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.800
as many as forty nocturnal visitors and three local graveyards

925
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.000
to exume recently buried bodies and what he says he

926
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.159
was in a days like state on about thirty of

927
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:32.360
those visits, He said that he came out of that

928
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.400
daze while at the cemetery, left the grave and good order,

929
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:39.440
and returned home empty handed. On other occasions, he dug

930
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.400
up the graves of recently buried middle aged women and

931
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.440
he thought resembled his mother and took their bodies home,

932
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.719
where he tanned their skin to make his paraphernalia. Gain

933
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:55.199
admitted that stealing from nine graves led investigators to him.

934
00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:00.000
Alan Winnimowski the State Crime Laboratory participated in opening three

935
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:05.039
test graves identified by Gean. The caskets were inside wooden boxes,

936
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.960
the top boards ran crossways, not lengwives, and the tops

937
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.199
of the boxes were about two feet or so below

938
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:14.599
the surface in sandy soil. Gean had robbed the grave

939
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:18.519
soon after their funerals while the graves were incomplete. The

940
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.000
test graves were exhumed because authorities were uncertain as whether

941
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.320
the slight Geen was capable of single handily digging up

942
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.920
a grave. During the evening, they were found, as Gean described,

943
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.119
one casket empty, the other casket was empty but contained

944
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:36.760
a few bones and crowbar, and a final casket had

945
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.599
most of the body missing, but Gean had returned rings

946
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.679
and some other body parts. Thus Gean's confession was largely corroborated.

947
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.440
Soon after his mother's death, Gain began to create a

948
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.440
woman's suit so that he could become his mother to

949
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:55.000
literally crawl into her skin. He denied having sex with

950
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:58.079
the bodies he exhumed, explaining quote they smelled too bad,

951
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.360
and during the State Crime Laborator interrogation, Geane admitted to

952
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:05.679
shooting fifty one year old Mary Hogan, a tavern owner

953
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.960
who had been missing since December eighth that year. In

954
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.679
nineteen fifty four. Her head was later found in his house,

955
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.000
though he denied any memory of the details surrounding her death.

956
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.800
The sixteen year old youth whose parents were friends with Gean,

957
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:21.360
who had attended baseball games in the movies with him,

958
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.360
reported that Geen kemp shrunk and heads in his house,

959
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.239
which he described as relics sent by a cousin who

960
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.079
had served in the Philippines of World War I two.

961
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:33.760
Upon investigation by police, these were determined to be human

962
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:38.039
facial skins carefully peeled from their corpses and used by

963
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:44.239
Geen as masks. During questioning, Sheriff Art Schnelly reported assaulted

964
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.079
Geen by banging his head and face into a brick wall.

965
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:52.480
As a result, Geane's initial confession was ruled inimissible. Sheriff

966
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.159
Art died of heart failure in eighteen sixty eight at

967
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:58.400
the age of forty three, before Geen's trial even took place.

968
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.039
Many who were Sheriff Art who knew him, said that

969
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.719
he was traumatized by the horror that Geen's crimes inflicted

970
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.360
on him, and this along with the fear of having

971
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:13.000
to testify in court, especially against assaulting Geen who which

972
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.360
caused his death. Now Gain was considered a suspect in

973
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.199
several other unsolved cases there in Wisconsin. In November and

974
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:24.320
fifty seven, authorities confronted him about missing persons cases that

975
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.679
had occurred between the death of his mother and that

976
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:31.039
of Warden. Their suspicions further aroused the discovery of Hogan's

977
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:35.639
remains why detector tasks exonerated Gaen from many of those murders,

978
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.920
but his psychiatrists concluded that his violence can only be

979
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.559
directed to women who physically resemble his mother. On November

980
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.559
twenty one, nineteen fifty seven, Geen was arraigned in the

981
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.960
County court House for one count of first degree murder,

982
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.880
where he played it not guilty by reason of insanity.

983
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.599
He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and found mentally incompetent, thus

984
00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.960
unfit for trial. Geen was then sent to the Central

985
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.920
State Hospital for the criminally Insane, which is now known

986
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.400
as Dodge Correctional Institution Maxim's security Facility. He was later

987
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.440
transferred to the Madonna State Hospital in Madison. In nineteen

988
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.960
sixty eight. Doctors determined that Geen was mentally able to

989
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.039
confer with counsel and participate in his own defense, so

990
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:21.679
new trial began on November seventh, nineteen sixty eight, eleven

991
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:24.960
years after and it lasted less than one week. A

992
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:27.960
psychiatrist testified that gain had told him that he did

993
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:31.159
not know whether the killing of Warden was intentional or accidental.

994
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:33.800
Gain told him that he had examined a gun at

995
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:37.159
Warden's store and the weapon discharged and killed her. He

996
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.280
claimed to not have aimed the rifle at her and

997
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.760
didn't remember anything that happened that morning. At the request

998
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.360
of the defense, Geen's trial was held without a jury,

999
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.920
with Judge Robert H. Gallmer presiding. Geen was found guilty

1000
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.840
by the judge on November fourteenth. A second trial dealt

1001
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.440
with Gean's insanity or sanity. After testimony by doctors for

1002
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:03.760
the prosecut and defense, Gallmer ruled Gaen quote not guilty

1003
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.440
by reason of insanity and ordered him to be committed

1004
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.280
to Central State Hospital for the criminally Insane. Gaines spent

1005
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.920
the rest of his life inside that mental hospital. Judge wrote,

1006
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:18.239
due to prohibitive costs, Gain was tried only for one murder,

1007
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:21.960
that of miss Warden, and also admitted to killing Mary Hogan.

1008
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.960
Now Gean's house, the outbuildings and as one hundred and

1009
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:29.599
ninety five acre property were appraised at about four thousand,

1010
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:32.239
seven hundred dollars, which is equivalent to about fifty one

1011
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.840
thousand dollars in today's money. His possessions were scheduled to

1012
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.199
be at auction March thirtieth, nineteen fifty eight, amidst rumors

1013
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.159
that the house and the land stood on what might

1014
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.920
become a tourist attraction. Early in the morning of March twentieth,

1015
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:48.760
the house was destroyed by a fire. The Deputy fire

1016
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:51.920
Marshal reported that a garbage fire had been set seventy

1017
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.320
five feet away from the house by a cleaning crew,

1018
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.800
who were also given the task of disposing the refuse.

1019
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.280
Hot coals were recovered from the spot of the bondfire,

1020
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:02.920
but that was not the fire that spread along the

1021
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.840
ground from the location. Arson was suspected, but the cause

1022
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.800
of fire was never officially determined. It is possible that

1023
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.519
the fire was not considered a matter of urgency by

1024
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.760
the fire chief. Frank Warden, the son of Geen's victim.

1025
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:19.599
Gane learned of the incident while in the detention center,

1026
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.639
shrugged and said just as well. Gaines a vehicle, the

1027
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:26.559
Ford Sedan, which used to haul the bodies of his victims,

1028
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:29.360
was sold at public auction for seven hundred and sixty dollars,

1029
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:33.199
which is about eighty three hundred dollars today. The carnival

1030
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:37.599
side show operator Bunny Gibbons purchased the vehicle. Gibbons was

1031
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:41.639
then later charged carnivalgoers twenty five cents admission to see them.

1032
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.800
The current whereabouts of the Ford Sedan are unknown. Gain

1033
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:49.400
later died at the Montona Mental Hospital Institute due to

1034
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.880
respiratory failure secondary to lung cancer on July twenty sixth,

1035
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.519
nineteen eighty four, at the age of seventy seven. Gain

1036
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.000
is interred by his parents and his brother in play

1037
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:03.960
in Field Cemetery. Over the years, however, souvenir seekers chipped

1038
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.840
away at pieces of his gravestone until the stone itself

1039
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.639
was stolen in the year two thousand. It was recovered

1040
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:11.440
less than a year and a half later in June

1041
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:15.039
two thousand and one near Seattle, Washington, and was placed

1042
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.760
in a storage unit in the Sheriff's Department, and since

1043
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:21.079
then his gravesite has remained unmarked. Thank you very much

1044
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:23.800
for listening to tonight's story Again. My name is DJ

1045
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:26.639
and I'm the host of the mythical true crime podcast

1046
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:35.760
good Night.

1047
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:46.280
Ooh it's Jackie. Did I scare you? How are we

1048
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:51.239
doing so far? Is everyone okay? Do you need a doctor?

1049
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:57.119
How about a therapist? Let's see what else the crypt

1050
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:58.199
has in store for you.

1051
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:03.079
In December nineteen seventy two, one hundred and one people

1052
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.559
were killed, with several more floating in the shallow, alligator

1053
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.440
infested water of the Everglades when Eastern Airlines Flight four

1054
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:14.880
oh one crashed. Second Officer Donald Repo was one of

1055
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.840
those people who perished, along with pilot Captain Bob Loft.

1056
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.000
Though they died in the crash, they would continue to

1057
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:26.440
get on flights again and again, leaving Eastern Airlines Flight

1058
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:32.400
three eighteen feeling quite haunted. Hi. I'm Kayla, host of

1059
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:35.119
Tragedy with a View, and this is the Ghosts of

1060
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:37.880
Flight four oh one. If you find that you enjoy

1061
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.800
this particular story and want more, I will be releasing

1062
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.639
a full in depth version on my show on November twelfth.

1063
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.159
I release weekly episodes of the misadventures in Mayhem that

1064
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:52.480
occur all over the globe while exploring the outdoors join me.

1065
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.599
The flight itself was smoothly, and when they began to

1066
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:06.199
approach Miami International Airport, First Officer stock Still lowered the

1067
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:10.639
landing gear. As co pilot, this was his job on

1068
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.000
the dash. There are three lights for each of the

1069
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.119
wheel wells that tell the pilot and co pilot when

1070
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.920
the wheels are down and ready for landing, but this

1071
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:22.880
time only the two rear wheel lights lit up green.

1072
01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:26.400
The front wheel light stayed off, indicating that the land

1073
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.039
gear at the nose of the plane failed to come out. Generally,

1074
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.559
when this happens, there is something with the light itself

1075
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.199
that is faulty rather than the wheel, and even when

1076
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:37.119
the wheel fails to come out, with the push of

1077
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:40.760
a button, it can be done so manually. This is

1078
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:44.679
nothing to panic about. Captain Loft simply tells air control

1079
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:46.559
that he is going to make a loop around while

1080
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.239
they address the issue and then come back in for landing.

1081
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:53.119
First Officer stock Still then turns the autopilot on to

1082
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.039
keep the plane at around two thousand feet of altitude

1083
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.079
and moving at about two hundred miles per hour so

1084
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.599
that he and Keptain Loft are able to examine the

1085
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:06.599
control deck at the same time. Donald Repo, who was

1086
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:10.480
the flight mechanic, would end up going down into the

1087
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:14.000
small compartment which sits below the cockpit to visually see

1088
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:17.679
whether the wheel has come down or not. Captain lofton

1089
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:20.239
first Officer Stock still figure out that it was the

1090
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:24.079
light itself that was faulty as is common, and that

1091
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.960
the wheel was in fact down. It was eleven forty

1092
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:29.679
two pm. First Officer Stock still began to turn the

1093
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.199
plane to the left so they could swoop around toward

1094
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.840
the airport once again when he got an odd sensation

1095
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.800
of doom. He had noticed the ground coming up to

1096
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.360
meet them without realizing that this is what it was,

1097
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:47.079
and Flight four oh one crashed into the Everglades. It

1098
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:50.000
would be Bob Marquee who arrived on the scene first.

1099
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:52.519
He was out frog hunting with his friend on a

1100
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:55.440
flat bottom boat when he saw the explosion from Flight

1101
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:58.559
four oh one hitting the water. It took him several

1102
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:01.360
moments to comprehend what happened, but when he made his

1103
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:05.239
way toward the accident, the sound that rose up was undeniable.

1104
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.360
It was the sound of people crying out for help.

1105
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.360
When Bob saw the first victim, he noticed it was

1106
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:14.039
a man in only about a foot of water, but

1107
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:16.840
he was struggling to keep his head above the small waves.

1108
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.679
His head was bloody, and when he shined the light

1109
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:24.480
around the water surrounding them, Bob saw body after body floating.

1110
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:24.719
In the water.

1111
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.519
Some were still strapped into their seats. But it would

1112
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:30.840
be the things that happened away from the wreckage that

1113
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:35.079
leaves a chill no one can explain. Sadie Messina, the

1114
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.199
wife of Rosario, who was a passenger on the plane,

1115
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:40.800
was standing in the airport waiting for her husband to

1116
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.360
arrive when she heard his whistling of a song. He

1117
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.519
loved this song and whistled it frequently, but when she

1118
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:51.360
turned to find him, he was not there. When the

1119
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:55.320
plane crashed, multiple people mentioned that they saw flight attendant

1120
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:59.199
Stephanie's Danish struggling out of the plane and then clumsily

1121
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.400
staggering her way through the swamp, which we will later

1122
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:06.239
learn was impossible because investigators found that she had died

1123
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:11.039
on impact in March of nineteen seventy three, nearly three

1124
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.960
months after the crash into the Everglades. Eastern Airlines Flight

1125
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.400
three eighteen was flying from New York to Fort Lauderdale

1126
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:22.199
in Florida. While preparing meals for passengers, one of the

1127
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:25.880
flight attendants, Denise, went into the plane's galley to help

1128
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.119
heat up some meals. In this area there is a

1129
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.280
refrigerator and ovens, and when she stepped into the space,

1130
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:36.239
she noticed that Ginny, another flight attendant, was no longer there.

1131
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:39.079
She didn't pay any mind to this, though, and got

1132
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.679
to warming up meals. Suddenly she felt that she was

1133
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:45.679
no longer alone, but when she turned around, she saw

1134
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.599
no one was there. She thought that maybe Ginny or

1135
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:50.679
one of the other flight attendants was playing a trick

1136
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:53.280
on her, and so she began to open all of

1137
01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:57.119
the doors. That feeling of not being alone only intensified

1138
01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:00.679
when she found no one was there. Then there are

1139
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:03.880
odd stories like that of a different flight on flight

1140
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.760
three eighteen, where Sis, a flight attendant, was making her

1141
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:10.880
way down the row counting passengers as they settled in

1142
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.480
for their flight. She was doing this to quickly identify

1143
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.359
if everyone was on board, and when she was done,

1144
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.680
she realized that they were over by one. As she

1145
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:23.039
turned around. At the front of the plane, she noticed

1146
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.800
a man in a pilot's uniform sitting in first class,

1147
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.680
and she realized that this must be why they were

1148
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.800
off by one. She assumed that he was dead heading,

1149
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:33.600
which is when a pilot needs to get to a

1150
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:36.760
different airport to fly a plane and they will hop

1151
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:40.359
on one of the company's other flights to get there.

1152
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.239
They don't really have to have a ticket or anything,

1153
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.800
and this was a pretty common thing to have happened,

1154
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.439
at least in the seventies, but she still needed to

1155
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:51.600
be able to identify him and have him on the

1156
01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.239
record for being on the plane. She approaches him and says, Hi,

1157
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.479
I'm Sis. Can I get your name? And are you

1158
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:01.960
dead heading? And he just doesn't acknowledge that she is there.

1159
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:04.720
He is just staring directly at the seat in front

1160
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:09.359
of him. She repeats herself, and then another flight attendant, Diane,

1161
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:12.319
comes over and hears Sis ask for a third time,

1162
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:17.000
but he still doesn't answer. By now, the passengers are

1163
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.399
noticing that this weird interaction is going on, so Sis

1164
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:22.840
decides that she is just going to have the pilot, George,

1165
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.399
come out and deal with this man who just won't

1166
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:29.199
respond to her. When George comes out, he kneels down

1167
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:32.199
so that he is at the man's eye level, and

1168
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.600
when he looks into the face of this extra pilot,

1169
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:38.960
he is stunned to see Captain Bob Loft staring back

1170
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:43.279
at him. George doesn't know Bob because of photos. He

1171
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:47.159
was good friends with Bob. George is so surprised that

1172
01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:50.479
he kind of falls backwards and exclaims that's Bob Loft,

1173
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:53.640
and everyone kind of turns their attention to George. He's

1174
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:56.439
he's kind of on the ground. He's fallen backwards on

1175
01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:00.640
his butt, and as they do so, the captain vanishes

1176
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.399
from his seat. We all know how cramped planes can be,

1177
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.920
so people are a little bit worried at this point

1178
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:10.199
and they're shaken up. They end up delaying the flight

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and telling passengers to stay in their seats so that

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way they can search the plane for this man. Many

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01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:21.399
had clearly seen him, and they find nothing. Eventually they

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have a safe flight to their destination. But this is

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01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:27.920
just one of numerous reports about sightings of both Bob

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01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:31.359
Loft and Don Repo that were reported over the years.

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Eastern Airlines would eventually remove and replace all of the

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01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:38.880
repurposed parts from Flight four oh one, and this ended

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their sightings, but it hasn't ended the stories of the

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ghosts of Flight four oh one. Thank you for listening.

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If you want to hear more about the story or

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more of the ghost stories that have come from Flight

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four oh one, hop on over to Tragedy with a

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View on November twelfth, anywhere you listen to podcasts. See

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you there, Hey there.

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I'm CJ to Rainbow Crimes formerly Beyond the Rainbow two

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Crimes of the LGBTQ plus and I'm the founder of

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Darkcast Network. I hope you were enjoying the stories our

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fabulous creators have been bringing you so far. I have

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a historical case of murder for you that happened on

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Halloween Night in nineteen fifty eight. The place Charleston, South Carolina.

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In nineteen fifty eight, Charleston had several bars and clubs

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that would cater to strictly the LGBTQ community, although the

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term LGBTQ didn't make its existence known until the mid

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nineteen eighties, and then it was just lgb adding the

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T in the nineties. Charleston also had several bars and

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clubs that would be both for heterosexuals and homosexuals. These

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01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:59.760
were called mixed clubs. Oftentimes, the mixed clubs they saw

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much more of a clientele than the gay only clubs.

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The reason being people were scared if they were gay, lesbian,

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or bisexual and their employer found out, it could result

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in losing their job. That is why the most closeted

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and curious individuals stuck only to the mixed clubs. Twenty

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nine year old Jack Dobbins was a supervisor for a

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chemical company, but in the evenings he would often volunteer

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his time bartending at Club forty nine. Club forty nine

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was a mixed club. Jack was gay and as opened

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01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:39.760
about his sexuality as he dare be. In nineteen fifty eight.

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Jack was kind of cute, albeit a little chubby with

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some dark, thick eyebrows. Jack shared his home, a pink

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01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.640
stucco house on Queen Street, with another young man named

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Edward Otie. The men were more than just roommates. They

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were friends too, just not romantically in each other. On

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Halloween Night nineteen fifty eight, Jack and Edward went out

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to dinner and then to a Halloween party. Jack would

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leave the parties somewhat early, as he had promised. The

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bartend at Club forty nine that night. As you can

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probably imagine, clubs on Halloween Night were poppin' and jam

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01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:26.399
full of people in costumes. Oh some wore their regular attire.

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Some may have even been scantily clad, although it was

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01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:34.279
the late fifties, nothing like the costumes in shock type

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01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:38.640
clothing we wear today. Club forty nine also had a

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01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:43.359
large crowd that night. Eighteen year old John Mahone walked

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into the club at some point during the evening. John

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was an airman with the United States Air Force. He

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didn't have much money with him, but he had enough

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for a beer or two. He sidled up to the

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bar and he ordered. Jack was immediately taken with how

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attractive John was. The two engaged in some conversation. After

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a bit, Jack began serving John beer's on the house.

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A few hours later, around two am, Jack shift was

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nearly over and John was still at the bar. Jack

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thought he and John were vibing and he was into it.

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He invited John to go to another bar. John agreed to,

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but said he didn't have much money on him. Jack

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laughed and shoved some dollar bills into John's pocket. As

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the two headed off to another bar, Jack wanted to

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01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.600
take John somewhere upscale, so they went to the Elbow

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cocktail lounge. However, when they got to the door, the

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men were denied entrance because John's blue jeans and leather

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01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:56.479
jacket did not coincide with the lounges strict dress code.

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Jack shrugged and told John, why don't you just come

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01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.439
back to my place. The bourbon there is much better

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than it would be here anyway, John said, lead the way,

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and the two men walked to the Pink House on

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Queen Street. Jack's roommate, Edward, was already upstairs in bed

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by the time Jack and John entered the residence. Jack

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went into the kitchen to make some drinks. Early the

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following morning, Elizabeth the housekeeper of the pink stucco house

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on Queen Street. She used her key to let herself in.

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To her horror, she found Jack lying naked on the

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living room couch. He had tried blood stuck to his head.

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Jack was holding a candlestick against his chest. Elizabeth quickly

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called the police. After the police arrived and inspected the

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crime scene, they spoke to both the housekeeper and to

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Edward the roommate. Edward had slept throughout the night and

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he hadn't awoken to any sounds coming from the house. Now,

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don't forget Edward was at a party before coming back home,

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so he might have also been intoxicated. Going back a

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little bit to that prior night. Upon leaving Jack's house,

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John went back to his Air Force barracks. He bragged

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about how he had beaten and robbed a queer to

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some of his fellow airmen. He showed them his bounty.

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He got a lighter, a key, and twenty three dollars.

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That was his big haul. But later that day, John

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saw in the newspaper the headline read the candlestick murdered.

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Below was a picture of Jack Dobbin sitting in a

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chair reading a book. John saw it was the man

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who had been so nice to him on Halloween night,

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01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:50.039
the man who had provided him with free beers, given

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01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:53.399
him some cash, and invited him back to his home.

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That man had died. John was sure when he left

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Jack's house it only hit him enough to make him unconscious,

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not to kill him, But John ended up turning himself

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into authorities. At John's trial, his account of What happened

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that night from the time they got back to Jack's

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01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:17.479
place went something like this. John sat on the couch

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in the living room while Jack went in the kitchen

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and poured each of them a high ball glass of whiskey.

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Jack came back out of the kitchen with the drinks

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and he sat on the couch next to John. Jack

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then began to make some uncomfortable comments to John. John

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excused himself to use the bathroom. When he came out

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of the bathroom, he found Jack standing naked in the

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living room. Jack said, come over here, John, John said,

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01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:50.079
he panicked and ran up the stairs, trying to look

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for an escape. He went into Jack's room and he

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grabbed one of two two and a half foot long candlesticks.

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Then he made his way back down stairs. He told Jack,

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I just want to leave, he stated. Jack made another

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sexual advance towards him, so he started to swing the

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candlestick at Jack's head, and he made contact three or

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four times until Jack fell backwards onto the couch into

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what John figured was just an unconscious state. And then

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he got the hell out of there and he went

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back to his base. Many have questioned if John was

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so freaked out by being hit on, or even around

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a gay man. Why in the first place would he

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even go to a bar with mixed clientele. There were

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01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.920
an abundance of straight bars he could have went to.

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01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:43.119
Why did he stick around so long at the bar

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after he bought the one or two beers that he

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01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:49.439
could afford. Why not just leave after his money ran out?

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Why I agree to follow a man a man he

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just met to the man's home. He must have known

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what Jack was after. And why would he run upstairs

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to escape when he just got through the front door

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that he came in. And why not just threatened to

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hit Jack with the candlestick and safely see himself out

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the door. Something more must have been going on other

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than what John offered up as his story. John would

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be arrested and charged with Jack's murder. At his trial,

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he would have an all male jury. The prosecution went

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01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:34.239
after the death penalty, claiming John committed murder during a

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01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:39.640
botched robbery. After three days of the court proceedings, the

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jury came back with a not guilty verdict, citing that

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01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:48.359
the victim was a deviant and John was freed. I

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01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:51.520
sure hope the ghost of Jack haunted John in that

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jury for the rest of their days. This has been CJ,

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host of Rainbow Crimes on the Dark Cast Network.

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Halloween.

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Everyone, Greetings, my dear witches and spooky listeners. This is

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a bonus haunted episode for Halloween or Sooen as us

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witches know it to be from Swales the Friendly Green

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Witch of the Bell Witch podcast. Today, I'm going to

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tell you about a gruesome haunting. It's a Britannia hotel.

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01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:40.159
I actually have had the pleasure in staying in twice

1336
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.720
whilst doing a spot of ghost hunting. It is true

1337
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:51.960
I heard knocks and creaks and saw flashing lights on

1338
01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:56.319
the gizmos and gadgets in some rooms. There is a

1339
01:20:56.359 --> 01:21:02.520
feeling of being watched and a boarding sense. When you

1340
01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:06.520
go to touch the piano in the grand hall, it

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01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:08.640
does make me think, oh.

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01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:09.720
Perhaps I shouldn't do that.

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Bosworth Hall in Market Bossworth in Leicestershire, UK a beautiful

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01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:33.960
grand manor house with viewed staircases and detailed paintings of

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those that may haunt the halls today. If you imagine

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01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:46.520
a stately home, you will envision this beautiful place with

1347
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:54.279
its mahogany detailed banisters, and beautiful decord rooms. It is

1348
01:21:54.399 --> 01:22:01.439
a very impressive place, a courtyard with a charming woods surrounding,

1349
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beautiful great and strangely a prison door. Within one of

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01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:14.399
the bars, there is an actual door from a local prison.

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01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:21.319
The neighboring structure is a seven hundred year old church,

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complete with gargoyles and grow tests of different natures. A

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01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:36.520
graveyard of old accompanies the church and is indeed in

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01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:42.560
need of a little TLC. The quaint little town of

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01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:50.159
Market Bosswell is a host to thatched roof houses and

1356
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:56.359
even a building where children's fingerprints have been fired within

1357
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:01.159
the structure of the bricks, giving it a Foeboe haunted

1358
01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:05.720
feeling from those kids who perhaps died in the fire

1359
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:11.359
as they made the bricks in Victorian slave labor. It

1360
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:18.079
is not a surprising setting for perhaps a genuine haunting.

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Some say if you walk the grounds of Bossworth Hall

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01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:29.000
on a still autumn night, when the mist clings low

1363
01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:33.039
to the earth and the wind dares not whisper through

1364
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:38.720
the trees, you might hear her the light almost mournful

1365
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:46.039
footsteps on the grand staircase, And if you're truly unlucky,

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you might see her take a breath. For this is

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01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:58.880
the specter or the ghost that is known locally as

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the Great Lady of Bosworth Hall. She is said to

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wonder the corridors of Bosworth Hall at night, as if

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time had forgotten her, and perhaps it has, for she

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01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:19.760
has walked them for over two hundred years, trapped between

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01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:25.000
this world and the next. Bosworth Hall, nestled in the

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Leicestershire countryside, has stood here since the seventeenth century. Its

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01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:38.760
ivy covered facade hiding centuries of secrets, and although it

1375
01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:45.640
has had many ad up buildings added, transformed and altered

1376
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:53.079
throughout the times, it still hasn't changed in its strange,

1377
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:59.000
dark vibes. It was once the proud seat of the

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01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:05.800
Dixie family, a line of baronets with wealth, status and

1379
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:11.319
whispers of scandal. One such whisper was that of Lady Dixie,

1380
01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:15.800
believed to be the spirit of the Gray Lady today.

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01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:20.880
Her name was Anne. Some say she was the wife

1382
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:23.880
of one of the younger baronets.

1383
01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:26.359
Others say she was the.

1384
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:32.680
Daughter of the Sir Walston Dixie of the Manor. We'll

1385
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:38.399
never know for sure. Young Sweet and Dixie, who arrived

1386
01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:42.680
at the Hall full of hope, only to find herself

1387
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:51.319
and snarled in a lonely, loveless marriage. Sir Walston Dixie,

1388
01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:58.239
her husband or an unloving father, was a stern, controlling man,

1389
01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:03.319
a magistrate known for his cruel justice and called demeanor.

1390
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:08.439
The locals feared him, his servants obeyed him without questioning,

1391
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:14.760
and Anne she suffered in silence. Some say she fell

1392
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:20.199
in love with another, perhaps a tutor, a stable hand,

1393
01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:27.039
or a gardener, a forbidden romance that, when discovered, ended

1394
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:34.079
in tragedy. When her husband stroke father found out of

1395
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:39.600
this forbidden love, he was horrified and outraged and set

1396
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:46.640
a series of man traps throughout his stately home in secret,

1397
01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:53.479
hoping to snare the unsuspecting snake in the grass that

1398
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:57.119
was taking this young woman away from him.

1399
01:26:58.119 --> 01:26:59.079
Was it a bare.

1400
01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:05.119
Trap, automatic crossbow her hole to fall in, perhaps a

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01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:10.039
mechanism to impale the poor, unsuspecting human.

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01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:11.560
Nobody knows for.

1403
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:16.680
Sure because there are no records. But it went bad,

1404
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:23.079
as these things often do, when unfortunately the trap snapped clothes,

1405
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:29.239
not on the unsuspecting young man, but actually on and herself.

1406
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:40.039
Desperately and fighting for her life, seeking help, she crawled

1407
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:46.079
up the stairs of the manor house, calling out people's names,

1408
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:50.279
servants' names. Nobody seemed to hear her poor had it

1409
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:56.199
appeared she was completely alone, desperately seeking assistance. It is

1410
01:27:56.279 --> 01:28:01.800
said that she crawled up the staircases her hands, dragging

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01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:07.119
her broken body behind her, leaving a long streak of

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01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:14.000
blooded carpet as she went desperate to cling onto her life.

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01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:17.840
She found herself in her room, lay on her bed

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01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:24.199
and prayed somebody would rescue find her assister in this

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01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:31.600
devastating situation. Some say she died instantly, while others say

1416
01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:37.680
she were left for some time, suffering in absolute agony,

1417
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:42.479
desperately clinging on to her soul. It must have been hell?

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01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:48.880
Could it have been ours? Could it have been days?

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01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:54.159
Others tell it differently, that she died of sorrow, alone

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01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:58.880
in her room, abandoned by a man who saw only hairs,

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01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:04.239
not affects. But all these tales end the same, with

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01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:11.000
her spirit, cloaked in a soft gray gown, gliding through

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01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:17.840
the halls, searching for her lost love that never came

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01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:22.880
to her rescue or sat by her side as her

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01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:30.479
poor soul slipped away. The guests at Bosworth Hall, now

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01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:36.439
a Britannia hotel and a delightful wedding venue with a

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01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:43.439
very nice spar reported cold spots in otherwise warm rooms,

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01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:48.840
the sudden scent of lavender where no flowers grow, and

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01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:55.920
the feeling unmistakable of being watched, whether by the gray

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01:29:56.039 --> 01:30:02.560
Lady or the evil man that set the traps. There

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01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:09.319
is being reports that strange blotchers appear on the ceiling

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01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:18.159
and on carpets that resemble something like blood, dark slime

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01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:22.840
that cannot be removed and can disappear just as it

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01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:28.720
has appeared. That's there and then gone. Guests catch something

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01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:32.399
at the corner of their eye on the ceiling or

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01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:35.279
on the floor, and when they turn to look, well,

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01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:40.560
there's nothing there. A housekeeper once told of entering Room

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01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:44.640
seven to prepare it for the next guest, only to

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01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:48.479
find the bed had already been disturbed and an imprint

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01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:52.359
on the pillow as though someone had just risen. The

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01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:56.359
windows were locked, the door had been bolted from the inside,

1442
01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:01.439
although it hadn't been used the night before, but the

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01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:09.359
room was occupied by someone or something. Another guest claim

1444
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:12.560
to see a pale woman in the hallway in the

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01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:17.399
middle of the night. She did not speak, She only stared,

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01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:24.760
eyes dark and sorrowful with longing before she turned and

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01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:31.439
vanished through the wall. They say she appears most often

1448
01:31:31.479 --> 01:31:35.119
on October nights, when the moon is high and the

1449
01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:40.159
veil is thinned between the worlds. And if you ever

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01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:46.079
stay in Bossworth Hall, as I have done on two

1451
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:50.600
occasions now and wake in the dark to the sound

1452
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:56.600
of sobbing, don't rise, don't open your door, and above all,

1453
01:31:56.680 --> 01:32:04.600
don't follow the footsteps as they descend up the grand staircase,

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01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:12.359
because once she knows you can see her, she may

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01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:20.640
never leave you alone. Yes, this gray lady of the

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01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.920
stately home Bosworth Hall.

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01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:38.920
The Pacific Northwest is a geographically diverse region of the

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01:32:39.079 --> 01:32:40.520
US and Canada.

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01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:45.960
Characterised by its majestic mountains, dense forests, rugged coastlines, and

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01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:47.479
deep river canyons.

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01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:51.119
But it has also been the home of many who kill.

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01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:54.399
Thank you for joining me Carmita.

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01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:58.479
And me CJ for a murder in the PMW.

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01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:00.039
T.

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01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.760
Carmita. This case is unresolved. Law enforcement thought that they

1466
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:08.159
had her killer in custody, and nine years later the

1467
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:11.479
guy gets acquitted. But we'll get more into that as

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01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:16.319
our case evolves. Twenty four year old immigrant from India

1469
01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.960
in recent college graduate are Panna Janaga. She seemed to

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01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:24.439
have her life together. She was a software engineer for

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01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:28.479
Dell Computers in Bellevue, Washington, which is just across the

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01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:32.920
lake from Seattle. She had a degree, a good job,

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01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:37.600
her own apartment. She volunteered at a local animal shelter,

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01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:41.399
she volunteered at a fire department, and she had a

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01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.600
load of friends from all the places and all the

1476
01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:48.800
things that she was involved in. Are Pawna also loved

1477
01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:52.560
riding her motorcycle, which made her something of a free spirit.

1478
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:56.960
Dell Computers the company that she was employed by, They

1479
01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:00.319
said she was very talented, that she was very right,

1480
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:03.359
and she was very outgoing in a rising star.

1481
01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:05.399
Girl was making that money for sure.

1482
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:07.920
Yeah, she was young, beautiful.

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01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:08.439
And making that money.

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01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:10.319
Go queen well.

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01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:13.359
On Halloween Night two thousand and eight, which happened to

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01:34:13.359 --> 01:34:17.079
be a Friday that year, Our Ponna and several other

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01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.920
residents of the complex that she lived in were hosting

1488
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:24.920
a Halloween party. Attendees were most of the other people

1489
01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:27.760
who lived in the building. They would filter in and

1490
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:34.600
out of the host apartments, sharing their costumes, eating, drinking, intermingling,

1491
01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:39.960
and such at different intervals During the night. There were, however,

1492
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:43.479
at least a dozen or so people who did not

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01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:46.720
live in the complex that came to enjoy the fest eties.

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01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:52.640
As you know most places with parties, that happened. The

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01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.760
guests in our Panna's apartments would leave a little after

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01:34:55.880 --> 01:35:00.359
nine pm to go to another apartment hosts party, in

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01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:03.760
turn would lock her door when her apartment was cleared

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01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:07.560
and go join the other parties too. This went on

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01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.560
until the early hours of the morning.

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01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:14.960
Sometime around three am, our Pana decided that it was

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01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:17.239
time for her to go home and go to sleep.

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01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:19.920
She bit her friends at the apartment on the first

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01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:23.279
floor goodbye, and she headed back upstairs to her third

1504
01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:28.520
floor apartment. Sometime between three am and eight am, our

1505
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:33.039
Pana's nearby neighbors were woken to moaning sounds coming from

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01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:36.880
our Panna's apartment. They went back to sleep, assuming that

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01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:41.079
she and a partner were having consensual sex, but around

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01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:45.279
eight am, her neighbor right next door heard an eerie

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01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:49.640
growl that lasted nearly twenty seconds, and then they heard

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01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:54.039
a thud. They then heard footsteps and water running for

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01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:57.920
almost an hour. The neighbor didn't think too much about

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01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.119
it and went about their day.

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01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:04.119
On Monday, November three, Our Pawna didn't show up for

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01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:07.199
work and her parents in India were worried when they

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01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:11.800
couldn't reach their daughter by phone all weekend. They asked

1516
01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:14.680
a family friend named Jay if he would go by

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01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.159
and check on our Pawna. Jay went to her apartment complex,

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01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:22.479
where he bumped into one of Our Pawna's neighbors, a

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01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:27.399
man named Cameron Johnson. Jay asked Cameron if he knew

1520
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:30.560
our Pawna and if he direct him to her apartment.

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01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:35.640
Cameron willingly obliged the stranger and the two men walked

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01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:39.640
to Our Panna's unit. At very first sight, the two

1523
01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:43.640
men noticed Our Pana's door appeared to have been forcibly

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01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:49.520
kicked in. They proceeded to enter. Once inside, they walked

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01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:54.840
around and then into Our Pawna's bedroom. Her naked body

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01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:59.000
lay face down on the carpet of her room. She

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01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:03.600
had been partially covered with the cloth. Our Panna had

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01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:07.880
been gagged with her own underwear, shoved into her mouth

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01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:11.920
and duct taped over it. She appeared to have been

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01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:15.840
beaten about her head. There was a thin ligature mark

1531
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:20.279
around her neck, and there was strong evidence she had

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01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:20.920
been raped.

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01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:25.920
Urupona's hands were covered in blue toilet bowl cleaner. Motor

1534
01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:29.399
oil had been poured over her body. Her fingers and

1535
01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:34.039
fingernails had been cleaned, removing any defensive DNA that could

1536
01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:37.439
have been under her nails. She had burn marks here

1537
01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:40.880
and there on her body, suggesting that someone had tried

1538
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:46.039
to light her on fire, but they were unsuccessful. Upona's

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01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:49.680
bed had been stripped, her comforter was soaking in bleach

1540
01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:53.800
in the bathtub, and a fleece blanket had been partially burned.

1541
01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:58.159
The apartment wreaked a bleach, and there were bleach spots

1542
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:02.680
all around in various areas. For rooms, police searched not

1543
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:07.560
just our Panna's residence, but the complex's trash dumpster. Also

1544
01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:12.199
there they found a bag containing our Ponna's Halloween costume,

1545
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:16.319
a blooded robe, an empty court bottle of motor oil,

1546
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:20.359
and a shoelace from a boot. This was assumed to

1547
01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:21.680
have been the murder weapon.

1548
01:38:22.760 --> 01:38:28.079
Detectives quickly got busy interviewing residents at the complex. They

1549
01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:32.479
asked for pictures taken that night. From the pictures, they

1550
01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:35.239
were able to find a scattering of the people who

1551
01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:39.239
didn't live at the complex. They discovered names of the

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01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:43.399
non residents and one became a person of interest. A

1553
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:47.720
man named Emmanuel Fair had been staying with someone who

1554
01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:49.479
did live in.

1555
01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:50.399
An apartment there.

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01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:55.479
Emmanuel was a convicted felon and had served time for

1557
01:38:55.600 --> 01:39:00.640
weapon and drug offenses and a rape conviction in two

1558
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:06.119
thousand and four. Another person of interest also caught their eye,

1559
01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:11.520
neighbor Cameron Johnson, the guy who led Arpaonna's family friend

1560
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:18.680
Jay to her apartment. Apparently Cameron had a big crush

1561
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:23.199
on Arpauna and he had done some odd things after

1562
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:27.600
our Pawna was murdered. There was a record he had

1563
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:32.439
called Arpauna around three am. Then he tried to scrub

1564
01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:37.680
that evidence from his phone, but he told detectives he

1565
01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:38.960
didn't remember.

1566
01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:39.520
Making that call.

1567
01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:44.439
He also told detectives on November first, he drove to

1568
01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:46.840
Canada but was denied entry.

1569
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:51.319
Cameron's computers showed a search of pawn shops near the

1570
01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:55.319
US Canadian border. When he went to the police station

1571
01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:59.119
for questioning, the cops took notice of Cameron limping and

1572
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:03.039
favoring one hour. He quickly told law enforcement it was

1573
01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:06.920
due to an arm wrestling incident, but probably one of

1574
01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:10.520
the weirdest things from Cameron was that he asked family

1575
01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:14.000
members and close friends, what if I did the murder?

1576
01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:18.960
And I just don't remember. Emmanuel and Cameron did talk

1577
01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:21.960
the night of the Halloween party. They even went and

1578
01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.840
sat in Cameron's car for a bit to listen to music.

1579
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:29.520
Emmanuel stated that he went back to his friend's apartment

1580
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.760
around one thirty am, but his phone records show that

1581
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.199
he was making phone calls between two and five am,

1582
01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:39.880
including some to the woman whose apartment he was staying at.

1583
01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.600
DNA from three mails were found at the scene of

1584
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:48.159
the crime, but Our Pawna did have guests there for

1585
01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:53.920
the party. Two sets of DNA belonged to Emmanuel and Cameron.

1586
01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:59.239
Emmanuel's DNA was found on Our Pawna's neck and on

1587
01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:03.119
the piece of that covered her mouth. It was found

1588
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:06.760
mixed with her blood on the bathrobe that was tossed

1589
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:12.439
into a bag in the dumpster. Cameron's DNA was found

1590
01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:15.600
on the discarded bottle of motor oil that.

1591
01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:18.479
Was also found in the bag in the dumpster.

1592
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:23.479
It was reported in the Seattle Times an unknown male

1593
01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:28.039
DNA was found on the shoelace from the boot.

1594
01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:32.560
Manuel Fair was the only man charged with Arpana's murder

1595
01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:36.600
in twenty ten. His case didn't go to trial until

1596
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:41.359
twenty seventeen, and then the jury deadlocked and the affair

1597
01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:45.560
was called a mistrial. Emmanuel was back in court in

1598
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:49.479
twenty nineteen. This time the jury came back with a

1599
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:54.239
not guilty after hearing all the supporting evidence that Cameron

1600
01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:59.840
was upon his killer. Emmanuel was released in twenty nineteen

1601
01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:03.560
after serving nine years with no conviction. He's suing the

1602
01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:08.079
county for wrongful detainment. Cameron has never been charged for

1603
01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:10.079
involvement in our Pawna's murder.

1604
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:16.239
It's been seventeen years now since our Pawna Janaga was

1605
01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:20.880
brutally murdered in her own apartment. There has been no

1606
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:24.279
justice for the twenty four year old who had such

1607
01:42:24.359 --> 01:42:26.760
a bright future ahead of her.

1608
01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:31.079
You know, Karmita, I kind of feel that Emmanuel was

1609
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:34.159
guilty along with Cameron and maybe another man.

1610
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:38.720
What do you think, Oh, definitely, I mean DNA, for

1611
01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:43.239
one doesn't lie, and there's so much evidence. I mean,

1612
01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:45.399
I don't know about this Emmanuel guy, but there was

1613
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.840
so much evidence against Cameron that he definitely wasn't involved.

1614
01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:52.640
Well, the DNA, like you said, doesn't lie in Emmanuel's

1615
01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:55.680
DNA was on the duct tape that covered her mouth,

1616
01:42:55.800 --> 01:43:00.199
who was also around her neck? Yeah like that and

1617
01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:02.319
had a hand in it too. Why is he calling

1618
01:43:02.359 --> 01:43:03.960
her at three am?

1619
01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:04.600
Definitely?

1620
01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:08.079
Well, we thank you for joining us and we hope

1621
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:11.079
you will add Murder in the PMW to your favorite

1622
01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:12.359
podcast list.

1623
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:13.600
Thanks to ourcast.

1624
01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.760
We are happy to have Murder in the PNW as

1625
01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:22.119
part of your incredible lineup of shows. Stay alert, stay vigilant,

1626
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:24.920
and always keep your head on a swivel.

1627
01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:36.920
Hey everyone, my name is Raven and I'm the host

1628
01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:41.840
of Rogue Darkness. In this Halloween special episode courtesy of

1629
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.000
the amazing dark Cast network, I wanted to discuss the

1630
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:48.840
unsettling case of a small cult from Sonora, Mexico, known

1631
01:43:48.880 --> 01:43:52.880
for their dedication to Santa Muerte also known as Saint Death,

1632
01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:56.680
a deity in Mexican folklore, and how the cult committed

1633
01:43:56.680 --> 01:44:03.119
horrific murders as ritualistic sacrifice their deity. So now let's

1634
01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:07.039
start off from the very beginning, a woman by the

1635
01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:10.279
name of Sylvia Maraz who would eventually become the leader

1636
01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:14.560
of an immensely small, but nonetheless severely brutal cult was

1637
01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:18.840
born in Amosio, Sonora, in nineteen sixty eight. It's been

1638
01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:21.680
reported that Sylvia's family lived in poverty within a poor

1639
01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:26.920
neighborhood of Nakazari de Garcia municipality in Sonora. At just

1640
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.159
the age of sixteen, Sylvia gave birth to her first son,

1641
01:44:30.520 --> 01:44:34.239
Ramon Omar Palacios Maraz. She would then go on to

1642
01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:38.119
have three more children with her first husband, Martin Baron Lopez.

1643
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:43.680
The children were Ivon Martin, Francisca Magdalina, and Georgina Guadalupe

1644
01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:47.680
Baron Maraz. When Sylvia was twenty nine years old, she

1645
01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:52.840
had her last child, her daughter, who she named Sylvia Yahara.

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Facing struggles throughout her entire life, Sylvia ultimately became convinced

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that she could and would received financial help from deities

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if she offered the ultimate sacrifice life. It was at

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that time that Sylvia decided she needed to perform human

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sacrifices in order to gain the favor and help of

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her personal revered deity, Sante Morte also known as Saint Death.

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Motivated by her delusional ideas of presumed power and the

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potential of gaining financial help from the other side, Sylvia

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orchestrated the sacrifices with the other individuals who ultimately joined

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her cult, which ended up including four of her five children,

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ramon Omar, Francisca, Magdalena, Georgina Guadalupe, and Sylvia Yahara. Along

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with her children, there was also Sylvia's father, Cipriano Maraz,

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her partner at the time, Eduardo Sanchez, and also another

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woman named Zuila Hada Santa Cruz Ariki. Together they systematically

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planned out their murders to use ritualistic sacrifice as a

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means to gain approval and favors from Sante Morte. Beginning

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in two thousand nine, Sylvia had picked her first sacrificial victim,

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her fifty five year old friend, Clotild Romero Pacheco, who

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was ultimately found dead in December of that same year.

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Clotild Ramero was known by the locals as a lady

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who sold popsicles. She reportedly had no close relatives living

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or otherwise known, which made her an unfortunately easy target

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for Sylvia and the others of the cult. On the

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day of the murder, Sylvia had told Clotild to pick

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up a twenty peso note that she saw off the

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ground as they were walking together, but unfortunately, when Clotild

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bent down to pick up the money, she was then

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swiftly struck in the neck with an axe, being instantly decapitated.

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Sylvia had just made her first human sacrifice. Now with

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Clotild dead, the group made an offering of her blood

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to Sato Muerte in an attempt to obtain protection, and

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then they went on to burn and bury Clotild's body

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near Sylvia's family home. The next murder wouldn't take place

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for a few months going into the next year. In

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June of twenty ten, ten year old Martin Rios cipparo

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A Sanchez Rieta, who was the biological son of Eduardo Sanchez,

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Silvia's partner. Martin was also the adopted son of Sylvia herself.

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Martin was the colt's next chosen victim, and he was

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01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:28.399
ultimately murdered in June of twenty ten. Sylvia reportedly had

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01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:31.199
gotten the young boy drunk and then had her youngest daughter,

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Sylvia Yahara, who was just thirteen years old at the time,

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stabbed Martin repeatedly for a total of at least thirty

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times while young Martin was still alive. Even after the

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brutal stabbing. The group then held a small ritual around him,

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where they proceeded to cut his veins and then spread

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01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:53.520
his blood around an altar while he bled out. The

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third and final victim of the cult was another ten

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year old boy named Jezus Actavio Martinez Janez. He was

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the adopted son of Ivan Martin Barone Maraz, Sylvia's son,

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and so was therefore Sylvia's grandson. Jesus was murdered just

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a month after Martin in July of twenty ten. This

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time around, Sylvia reportedly held Haesus in front of the

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altar while one of her daughters brutally slaughtered him, decapitating

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him like the victims before him, and then deraining him

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of his blood to spread across the altar for Santemirte.

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Investigations into the crimes began after Jesus Martinez was reported

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missing by his mother and his mother's boyfriend. Investigators looking

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into the missing persons case initially thought that young Jesus

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might have been kidnapped by a human trafficking network due

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01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:47.239
to some alleged eyewitness sightings of Jesus near the Arizona

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border begging in the street. This theory, however, was quickly

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ruled out due to a lack of evidence and the

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reliability of the eyewitness accounts not being very viable. After

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two years of eyes on going investigation into the missing

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person's case of Haesu's Martinez, in March of twenty twelve, Sylvia,

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along with the rest of her family living in her home,

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were implicated and arrested for the murder of Hayesus as

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01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:15.319
his body was eventually found under the floor of Sylvia's

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youngest daughter's bedroom. The other two victim's bodies were discovered

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01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:24.119
shortly thereafter in an unpopulated area not far from Sylvia's home.

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01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:28.399
The state police actually discovered the bodies during an unrelated

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01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:34.039
investigation and were then able to tie Sylvia to the crimes. Sylvia,

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01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:36.720
Maraz and the other seven members involved in the heinous

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01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:41.239
sacrifices were arrested and brought to trial. Sylvia was sentenced

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to one hundred and eighty years in prison, while the

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rest of the adult cult members were sentenced to sixty

1722
01:49:46.039 --> 01:49:51.239
years in prison. Sylvia's youngest daughter, Sylvia Yahara, was spared

1723
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:53.399
prison as she was just a miner at the time

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of the murders and was instead sent to a youth

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detention center. Records show that after psychological event valuations were

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01:50:00.880 --> 01:50:03.840
done on Sylvia Yahara. Since she had been involved in

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the cult since her childhood and was surrounded by it

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01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:10.079
on a regular basis, she didn't view the atrocious actions

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01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:14.840
performed as anything other than normal. It's truly heartbreaking how

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the adult members caused such delusions and distortions into the

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mind of such a young child to enable them to

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01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:25.399
actually believe murdering another human being in such a callous

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01:50:25.479 --> 01:50:30.600
manner was normal. According to one of Zoila's Onta Cruz's daughters,

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Sylvia Moraz had reportedly threatened to kill the other members

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01:50:34.279 --> 01:50:37.239
if they did not partake in the brutal, ritualistic crimes,

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which is why none of them objected to the murdering

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of their own family members. Fear mixed with brainwashing had

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unfortunately persuaded them to oblige. We unfortunately see this happen

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in many cultures, many belief systems, and no matter which

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deities the sacrifices are being meant for, it's still a

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01:50:55.920 --> 01:50:59.239
horrific crime to have to hear about. May the innocent

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lives laws be Never Forgotten. If you enjoyed this episode

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