Novela Chapter 5: It Wasn't an Aircraft-The Disappearance of Frederick Valentich- F**k That

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dark Cast Network in Deep Pods with
a dark Side. Hello, and welcome

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back to fuck That. Before I
get into the episode, I wanted to

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give a shout out to Rachel,
who is the newest member of my Patreon.

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Also, I need to share this
really bizarre fact that I learned yesterday,

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and if anybody knows the reasoning behind
this, please tell me why,

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because I read a bunch of weird
theories nobody could really explain why. But

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apparently some Mexican cartels are customizing the
magazines of their guns with Lana Dlay's face

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on them. She's a singer,
and I just I need to know why

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because it is the weirdest thing I've
ever come across I think maybe ever so,

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Yeah, it blew my mind.
I figured it would blow your minds

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as well. And if anybody knows
why, let me know because I really

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need to know the reason behind this. It's gonna drive me insane. All

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right, let's jump into the episode. Frederick Valentich is an Australian pilot who

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disappeared during a training flight. Frederick
has been missing for forty five years,

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four months, and nineteen days,
and his disappearance is considered to be Australia's

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most famous case of an alien abduction. Frederick was born on June ninth,

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nineteen fifty eight, and I couldn't
find really anything on his mother, but

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his father, Guida, was heavily
involved in his disappearance. But what I

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do know is that both of his
parents were born in Italy and they subsequently

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moved to Australia, which was where
Frederick was born. Starting at a young

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age, Frederick was fixated on UFOs
and the thought of an alien invasion.

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Who doesn't enjoy a good talk?
Ray Am? I right? Those are

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my favorite aliens? But anyway,
His father did disclose that Frederick's fascination was

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somewhat a concern and that he was
sometimes preoccupied with the thought of what could

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happen if there ever was an alien
invasion, which is valid. I've seen

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Mars attacks, I've played Nukam.
I know how that goes, and I'm

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not here for it. Shortly before
the flight where he would disappear, there

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are a lot of sources that say
that Frederick had disclosed to some people that

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he had seen a UFO moving very
quickly throughout this guy. I'm going to

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talk more about aliens later in the
episode, but before you judge this guy

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and think he's crazy, honestly,
there's a lot of people out there that

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believe in aliens and UFOs, so
honestly, this really is not something far

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fetched to believe in. What Frederick
was most passionate about was flying and becoming

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a pilot. In fact, this
is what he dedicated his life too.

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At the age of twenty in nineteen
seventy eight, he applied to the Royal

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Australian Air Force twice and he subsequently
was denied, but he then ended up

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joining the Air Training Corps. I'm
going to give a really brief overview of

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where he was at as a pilot
prior to this flight where he disappeared,

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and then I'm going to go into
it more in depth after the investigation,

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but just to give you a quick
idea of where he was at as a

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pilot at the time, he was
studying part time to become a commercial pilot.

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So the kind of pilot that will
take you to Florida when you want

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to go on vacation, if that's
where you want to take a vacation.

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There's a lot of other better places, but I'm not here to judge anyway.

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He also had a private pilot's license
at the time with one hundred and

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fifty flight hours as well as his
night rating. What I mean by that

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is he had a class for instrument
rating, which he earned on May eleventh

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of nineteen seventy eight. But this
allowed him to fly at night only VFR

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not IFR. VFR means visual flight
rules. It is also called VMC so

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visual meteorologic conditions, So that means
that he was able to fly in conditions

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where there was adequate visibility at night. However, if the visibility was subpar,

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that would require a pilot to use
IFR or instrument meteorological conditions. So

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he was not instrument rated to fly
in conditions that required you to use only

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instruments because of the visibility, and
that is a difficult certification to achieve.

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At the time, he was not
pursuing an instrument rating. He was pursuing

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his commercial Pilot license his CPL,
and he had a really hard time with

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these certification exams. Unfortunately, he
failed all five of the CPL exams twice,

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and the month prior to his disappearance, he had failed three more CPL

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exams. According to the investigation conducted
by the Australia Department of Transport. Prior

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to Frederick's last flight, he told
his family, some friends, and his

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girlfriend that he only had one subject
left that he needed to pass in order

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to gain his CPL. This was, unfortunately not true. He also told

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them that he was attending classes twice
a week to help him study for his

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CPL, and his father Guido,
was helping him pay for his commercial license,

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but nobody knew what training organization he
was taking those classes with. Frederick

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was also involved in some incidences while
flying, which I will also elaborate on

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later when I get into the report. Saturday, October twenty first, nineteen

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seventy eight was a beautiful day.
Super sunny, fairly any clouds, just

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a perfect day. Not the kind
of day that you see in New England.

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Ever, by the way, late
afternoon evening, Frederick travel to the

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Morabin Airport, which is right outside
of Melbourne for a training flight that he

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had scheduled, and that airport is
one of the largest aviation education facilities in

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the world. It has fifteen flight
schools with over six hundred and fifty instructors.

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Frederick was well known at the airport
and he booked a Sesna one to

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eighty two light aircraft, which is
a four seater single engine plane. The

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weather forecast was clear and he filed
a flight plan to King Island, which

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is one of the Tasmanian islands across
the Bass Strait. The Bass Strait is

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a channel of seawater that is between
the Australian coast of Victoria and the island

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state of Tasmania and at this point, various bodies of water meat within the

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strait between the Tasman Seas, Pacific
Ocean and the Indian Ocean, which creates

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strong currents and waves. I did
look into the weather in this area.

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I also looked at the weather at
altitude and what's interesting is typically at altitude

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the wind will be stronger, but
at altitude it's a lot less. But

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sometimes the weather in this area can
be super unpredictable, especially with squalls and

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bad weather coming in. I'm going
to talk about the weather that particular day

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in depth later on, but overall, the conditions that day on the ground,

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additionally at altitude for a flight,
they were more than ideal conditions.

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With that being said, after Frederick's
disappearance, the Bass Straight did get a

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moniker, which is the Bass Straight
triangle because the currents can be really strong,

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the waves and the wind can be
strong. There have been a decent

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amount of shipwrecks there, so once
this happened, it got the nickname of

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the Bass Straight triangle. But suffice
it to say, the weather is much

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worse for people that are in the
water on boats. Okay, so when

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pilots are flying they typically try to
reduce the time spent flying over water.

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You can typically land a plane in
an emergency on land, can't really do

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that over the water. So the
typical flight plan to King Island from that

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airport was to fly along the coast. And I'll post photos of this on

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social media from the Department of Transport
because they have a lot of nice images

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where they highlight the flight pattern.
Anyway, so you fly along the coast

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to the western entrance to the Strait
by Cape Otway. After that it's fifty

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miles or eighty five kilometers across the
strait, so over water between Cape Otway

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to King Island. According to the
investigation summary report, Frederick submitted a flight

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plan for a night VMC flight,
So those are the conditions I had mentioned

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earlier, which he was certified for
from the airport to King Island and back,

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and he did this after he obtained
a meteorologic briefing just around five twenty

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three PM. The cruising altitude in
his flight plan was below five thousand feet

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with estimated time intervals of forty one
minutes during the first stretch of flight to

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Cape Otway and from there to King
Island it would take an additional twenty eight

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minutes, so sixty nine minutes of
flight time. Nice. Frederick did not

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arrange for aerodrome lighting, which is
just airport lighting, to be illuminated for

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his arrival at King Island, and
he advised the briefing officer and the operator's

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representative that he was traveling to King
Island to pick up three friends, and

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he brought four life jackets with him
on his flight However, prior to his

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flight, Frederick told his family,
girl friend, and some friends a totally

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different story. He told them he
was flying to King Island to bring back

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crayfish. At six' ten,
the plane that he was flying was refueled

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to capacity, with the departure time
of exactly six nineteen. After Frederick departed,

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he established two way radio communications with
Melbourne Flight Service Unit. Frederick reported

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his arrival at Cape Otway exactly forty
one minutes into his flight, which is

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exactly how long it was supposed to
take. At seven pm. The next

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transmission that Melbourne FSU received from Frederick
was received exactly six minutes and fourteen seconds

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past seven o'clock, and this was
recorded. I am going to read the

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transcript starting with Frederick, and it
alternates between him and FSU, so just

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know that it's Frederick FSU, and
on and on. There is one part

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where Frederick speaks twice, which I'll
note, but just so I don't have

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to keep saying who's speaking, just
know that that's the order of dialogue.

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Frederick radios in and says Melbourne,
this is Delta Sierra Juliet, which is

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the call sign for that aircraft,
and in small aircrafts, you'll see this

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on the tail of the plane.
It'll say in this case DSJ, and

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that is how the pilot will address
air traffic control, and air traffic control

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will address the pilot or in this
case it's the Melbourne Flight Service Unit.

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So anyway, Frederick radio's in and
says Melbourne. This is Delta Sierra Juliet.

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Is there any non traffic below five
thousand Delta Sierra Juliet No non traffic

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Delta Sierra Juliette. Seems to be
a large aircraft below five thousand Delta Sierra

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Juliet. What type of aircraft is
it? Delta Sierra Juliet. I cannot

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affirm it is for bright It seems
to me like landing lights. Delta Sierra

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Juliet. Melbourne, this is Delta
Sierra juliet. The aircraft has just passed

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over me at least one thousand feet
above Roger and it is a large aircraft.

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Confirm unknown due to the speed it's
traveling. Is there any air Force

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aircraft in the vicinity Delta Sierra Juliet
No known aircraft in the vicinity Melbourne.

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It's approaching now from due east towards
me, and then it says open microphone

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for two seconds, which essentially means
that he's holding on to the button to

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communicate via radio, but he's not
saying anything. And there's going to be

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a lot of this from here on
out. Frederick then radios in again and

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says Delta Sierra Juliet. It seems
to me that he's playing some sort of

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game. He's flying over me two
three times at speeds. I could not

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identify Delta Sierra Juliet. Roger,
what is your actual level? My level

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is four and a half thousand,
four five zero zero Delta Sierra Juliet.

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And confirm you cannot identify the aircraft. Affirmative, Delta Sierra Juliet. Roger,

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stand by, Melbourne, Delta Sierra
Juliet. It's not an aircraft.

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It is open microphone for two seconds, Delta Sierra Juliet, Melbourne. Can

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you describe the aircraft Delta Sierra Juliet
as it's flying past it's a long shape,

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open microphone for three seconds. Cannot
identify more than that as it has

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such speed. Open microphone for three
seconds before me right now, Melbourne,

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Delta Sierra Juliette Roger and how large. Would the object be, Delta Sierra

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Juliet. It seems like it's stationary. What I'm doing right now is orbiting,

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which essentially means that he's just flying
in a circle and the thing is

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just orbiting on top of me.
Also, it's got a green light and

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sort of metallic like it's all shiny
on the outside. Delta Sierra Juliet.

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Delta Sierra Juliet, open microphone for
five seconds. It's just vanished, Delta

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Sierra Juliet, Melbourne. Would you
know what kind of aircraft I've got?

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Is it a type military aircraft?
Delta Sierra Juliet. Confirm the aircraft just

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vanished. Say again, Delta Sierra
Juliet. Is the aircraft still with you?

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Delta Sierra Juliet. It's a open
mic for two seconds. It's now

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approaching from the southwest. Frederick then
says again, Delta Sierra Juliet. The

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engine is rough idling. I've got
it set at twenty three twenty four,

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and the thing is, to my
understanding, rough idling is not a good

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thing. And what he means by
I've got it set at twenty three twenty

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four, he means twenty three hundred
to twenty four hundred RPMs Delta Sierra Juliet,

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Roger, what are your intentions?
My intentions are to go to King

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Island, Melbourne. That strange aircraft
is hovering on top of me. Again,

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open microphone for two seconds. It
is hovering and it's not an aircraft.

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The second that he reported that he
had a rough running engine and his

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intention was still to continue his flight
to King Island, the alert phase was

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declared and the aerodrome emergency procedures were
activated at King Island and King Island Flight

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Service was recalled to duty. FSU
called in Delta Sierra Juliet and Frederick responded

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with Delta Sierra Juliet Melbourne with open
microphone for seventeen seconds and that was the

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end of communication. There is no
record of any further transmissions from Frederick's aircraft

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and this exchange lasted for just under
six minutes. The investigation into Frederick's disappearance

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was conducted by the Australian Department of
Transport to four years to complete, and

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it noted that the reason for the
disappearance of the aircraft had not been determined.

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Frederick was listed as missing and presumed
dead after a coronial inquiry. The

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alert phase of SAAR, which is
search and rescue procedures, was declared at

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seven twelve and at seven point thirty
three, when his aircraft did not arrive

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at King Island, the distress phase
was declared and search action was commenced.

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A very intensive air, sea,
and land search was continued until October twenty

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fifth of nineteen seventy eight, four
days later, but there was absolutely no

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trace of the aircraft found. It
was through this investigation that they were able

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to determine that Frederick had told everybody
at the airport that he was going to

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pick up friends from King Island,
but this directly contradicted what he told his

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girlfriend and family that he was going
to pick up crayfish. What is strange

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as there was absolutely no evidence of
any passengers at King Island waiting for him

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to pick them up. Additionally,
he didn't have any orders for crayfish except

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for one which was from a member
of the Air Training Corps. But Frederick

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did not order crayfish from King Island
before his flight, and apparently during his

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flight, there were no crayfish available
at King Island. For those of you

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in the United States that are wondering
what the fuck a crayfish is. I

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too was wondering that they are crawdads. I'm sure you all know what that

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is. Crawfish crawdad boil. You
know when they just dump them on the

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table and shit a crawdad boil,
That's what I'm talking about. So he

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didn't have a crayfish order in for
King Island, and he didn't have any

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homies that he was allegedly supposed to
pick up at King Island, which is

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very strange. It gets weirder.
Frederick told his girlfriend that he would meet

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her at seven thirty that evening,
which obviously would have been impossible. He

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was still flying to King Island at
that point in time. He was chatting

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with FSU at seven twelve, and
then he would have had a sixty nine

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minute flight back, so that would
have been impossible, and he was aware

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of that because this was not his
first flight to King Island. Even stranger,

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he did tell his father that he
would be home after his flight that

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evening. I mentioned earlier that in
his flight plan, Frederick did not request

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aerodrome lighting, which I initially didn't
find to be strange, but as I

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was reading through the Department of Transports
report. They noted that the King Island

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Flight Services unit was closed, which
Frederick was aware of. So this meant

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that there would be no other lighting
and nobody that he would be able to

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communicate with on King Island, and
a stated quote it seems possible that he

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may not have had any intention of
proceeding to King Island. The report continued,

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quote, his girlfriend has stated that
he has perspired profusely and his voice

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changed in any unexpected or out of
the ordinary situation. It was particularly noticed

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while monitoring the recorded communications containing his
detailed description of the other vehicle's maneuvers,

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that his voice remained matter of fact
and completely normal. If it had been

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the pilot's intention to disappear, a
number of directions of travel were open to

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him to maintain communication for the period
he did while operating below five thousand feet.

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However, it is unlikely that such
a document would have been available to

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him and his possible tracking directions would
be listed to known coverage areas. This

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is the part that I found to
be the most interesting quote. Had the

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flight proceeded as play land and the
aircraft did crash into the sea, it

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is most probable that wreckage would have
been sighted. The aircraft disappeared without trace,

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and no wreckage was located or information
received concerning the whereabouts of the aircraft

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and its occupant. It therefore is
not possible to determine the cause of the

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disappearance, but it seems likely that
the aircraft did not crash in the sea

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between Cape Otway and King Island.
I want to continue to read from the

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report because I think it has a
lot of really good information and this is

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part of the investigator's report or note
rather so it says notes of a conversation

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with the OIC, which I'm assuming
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On October twenty fourth of seventy eight, Brian Jones, who was on

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duty from eight hundred to fifteen hundred
on Saturday, which is eight to three.

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At fifteen hundred, he put through
a closing request to MLFS, which

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is the flight service, stating lights
out as no planned flights do and no

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request for lights. He was pulled
out of the golf club by Melbourne about

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nineteen fifteen, so seven fifteen,
after the aircraft had reported engine problems.

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He put on the airfield lights at
nineteen thirty five, so seven thirty five.

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At the same time, his assistant
had just arrived to also put the

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lights on for a departing sesna which
had been held up for passengers, and

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this is again on King Island.
That same sesna that was held up on

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King Island was immediately used for a
quick search around the island with the assistant

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as an observer from eight o'clock to
eight twenty five. Nothing cited, whether

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absolutely clear with unlimited visibility. There
was another plane that arrived at eighteen hundred

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hours, which is six o'clock with
a band that was due to depart around

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three o'clock the next morning. They
have an agent who has key for the

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lights on that island. Again,
this was an additional plane that was used

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for a quick search at one thousand
feet so super low altitude at eight o'clock

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to eight fifty five with Brian Jones, who was the officer in charge as

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an observer. He noted that you
could see the Cape Otway lights, which

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is where the last transmission came in. That is that one last point that

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you fly to before you're flying directly
over the street to King Island. And

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he noted that you could see the
Cape Otway lights flashing from the lighthouse,

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as well as all of the island
lights. Excellent visibility with a clear sky,

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no clouds, very starry. Many
fishing boats around the island had their

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lights on and could be seen for
miles. Additionally, the officer in charge

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spoke to the Cray fishermen and none
were ordered for that night. They had

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confirmed in fact, they had sold
out in the afternoon and didn't have any

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left. He noted that the pilot
had not booked in to the hotel and

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they do not recognize the name of
the pilot, Frederick, but the aircraft

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had been down to King Island before, so it was something that the aircraft

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could handle. During the course of
the search into Frederick's disappearance, there were

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two big issues that were noted in
the investigation, and it is written in

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a way that it is unclear and
vague, so bear with me. The

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first states that search time was lost
by the optimum aircraft. I'm assuming what

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they mean by that is the search
plane, but again it doesn't really say

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then it says indirecting a surface vessel, which I'm assuming is a boat to

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the position of a possible oil sleigh
and debris for retrieval. The way this

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reads to me is that search time
was lost because this search for the oil

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slick and debris was happening at the
same time that all of this was going

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down, which implies that it's probably
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It is very unclear. It then
states that the second problem is when the

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light aircraft without integral navigation systems found
possible debris out of sight of land,

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they had to climb to a fixed
position, and when they did that,

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they lost sight of said debris.
So again two very unclear statements. They

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do not state yes or no.
This debris could be related, but who

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knows. The way it reads to
me is that the search was going on

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with the search plane while all of
this was going on. It was probably

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not related, but I could be
wrong, and that the second debris that

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they mentioned is a different debris site. Anyway, it's confusing. Let's move

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on. On October twenty fifth,
which is the following day, Frederick's father,

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Guido, visited the office that was
conducting the investigation for the purpose of

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hearing the tape recording that he made
before his disappearance, and they noted certain

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statements that he made during that conversation. At the time of his disappearance,

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Frederick was working for an army disposals
firm, and Guido was under the impression

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that he was attending lectures for his
CPL at an airport on Tuesday nights from

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one o'clock to five o'clock on Saturday
afternoons. And by an airport I mean

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Morabin, so the airport that he
flew out of. What was odd is

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that he did not know the organization, which I mentioned earlier. Nobody knew

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the organization, nor did anybody know
the alleged lecturer. His father went on

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to state that there were no problems
at home. Frederick didn't have any financial

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issues. He very much wanted a
career in aviation and he was really excited

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about eventually being able to join the
Royal Australian Air Force. What I thought

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was most important of this conversation was
that he stated that Frederick was a firm

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believer in UFOs. He had saved
articles and information on UFOs and read Chariot

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of the Gods as well as other
books. He went to see movies on

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the subject and this interest started when
he was at school about six years ago,

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so when he was fourteen, and
his belief was strengthened recently when he

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was allegedly allowed to see the Royal
Australian Air Force's confidential files on UFOs and

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apparently he wouldn't discuss these details with
his family as they were confidential. There's

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nothing to suggest that this actually happened, so this is all just what his

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father is stating based on dialogue with
Frederick. He then further states that Frederick's

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mother saw UFO one night. She
called Frederick and he apparently saw it too.

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It was a large light, ten
times larger than a star. It

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was stationary for a while, and
then it moved off at a great speed.

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He stated that this happened to Frederick
about eight months ago, so eight

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months prior to his disappearance. His
father eventually became convinced that UFOs existed,

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so this entire family Frederick did have
sisters, but his father, his mother,

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and him firmly believed in aliens and
the existence of them as well as

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UFOs. His father further stated that
Frederick was worried about attack from UFOs and

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what they could do, but he
had told them that there was nothing that

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they could do. Therefore, there's
no point in worrying about it. He

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then stated that he's unsure about what
him and his girlfriend had planned that night.

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He knew that fred was going to
be home and thought something about his

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girlfriend's statement was fishy. His girlfriend
stated that they had plans. There's really

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nothing to suggest that she had anything
to do with anything. So I think

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at this point, it's the day
after. It's just a grieving father trying

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to rationalize things. One of the
components of this investigation was an official pilot

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investigation, in which they conducted a
thorough background and history of Frederick. I'm

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going to read through a lot of
it, and there's going to be some

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overwhelmingly negative aspects of his career,
especially in piloting, and I just want

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to say that I'm not going over
that to make Frederick look bad in any

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way, but I think it's a
critical piece to the investigation. In high

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school, he had some difficulties.
He fell below average in geography, English

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science, and graphics, which I
feel like graphics is fucking irrelevant, who

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gives a shit? And he failed
Math A and B. This was in

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nineteen seventy four. In nineteen seventy
six, he applied to the Royal Australian

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Air Force and the test results were
very low scores indicative of low IQ fit

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for unskilled work only. In nineteen
seventy seven he enrolled in RIMT, which

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is the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, but he subsequently withdrew in July.

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He had his student pilot license issued
on February twenty fourth of nineteen seventy seven.

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It says solo June, so I'm
assuming that he was able to fly

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solo in June of nineteen seventy seven, but it doesn't state any further.

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It states that he passed the basic
Aeronautical Knowledge on his third attempt on August

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eleventh of nineteen seventy seven. He
passed the restricted Private Pilot at his second

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attempt in September. His restricted PPL
SO private pilot license was issued September twenty

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third of nineteen seventy seven with fifty
seven flying hours. It's really impressive that

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he accomplished one hundred flying hours in
a year. By the way, that

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is a lot. It then discusses
his PPL theory exams, so he passed

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his NAV exams at his second attempt. He passed his Aircraft Performance in Operations

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exam at his fifth attempt, and
his Era of Legislation he passed at his

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third attempt. Now, I know
that all of this can look overwhelmingly negative,

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but at the end of the day, he ended up passing these exams.

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It may have taken him more than
one attempt, but he passed,

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and I think that shows honestly tact
and dedication on his part. Other point

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that they note in this is that
his pilot log book was not found,

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but it is possible that he had
that with him on his flight. They

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stated that at the time of his
disappearance he was working as a shop assistant,

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but he devoted pretty much all of
his energy into flying. As a

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boy, he had been an Air
Training Corpse cadet in nineteen seventy seven.

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After he started flying, he returned
to the corpse as an unpaid civilian helper.

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He was later taken on with the
rank of airmen. He was well

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thought of by friends and acquaintances.
He was determined to succeed as a pilot,

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and as I had mentioned, unfortunately
this was a lie, but he

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had told everybody that he passed.
Some CPL theory exams. He failed every

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single one. But this could have
been a shame thing. This could have

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been a shame response. So,
for example, there was one person that

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they interviewed that was an instructor that
failed him his first time unrestricted, but

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he called him an average pilot.
He said it was okay on instruments,

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never mentioned u F In another interview, however, somebody said that he was

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a sensible pilot. He didn't drink, he didn't do drugs, no mention

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of UFOs. Another person called him
quiet sincere sensible, didn't drink, didn't

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smoke. Another instructor called him an
average pilot. So, even given his

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background with the trouble he got into
prior to taking this last flight where he

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disappeared and failing his exams before he
subsequently passed, there were multiple people interviewed

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that said he was Yeah, he
was an okay pilot, but nobody said

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he was a bad pilot or that
he had no business to fly planes.

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Now I want to get into in
depth the meteorologic conditions according to the Bureau

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of Meteorology, and today I learned
what the fuck Zulu time is, which

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is apparently something that they use for
flying. Why they don't just use regular

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fucking time is beyond me. But
eight hundred when I read this document is

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six pm in Australia Zulu time,
So at eight hundred on October twenty first

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of nineteen seventy eight, again six
pm, conditions were perfect for night flying.

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Although a trace of strato cumulus at
five thousand to seven thousand feet and

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scattered cirrus at thirty thousand feet were
reported, no cloud was detectable between the

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Victorian Ranges and the northern Tasmania coast
on the infrared satellite pictures at six hundred

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and nine hundred that's four pm to
seven pm. There was no turbulence and

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visibility was excellent in airborne aircraft over
King Island at eight o'clock that evening,

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which would have been way after this
last transmission came in, could clearly see

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the light from the Cape Otway lighthouse, so visibility was ideal. You could

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see the lighthouse from Cape Otway from
King Island, which when he radioed in

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he was right after Cape Otway.
Who knows how far he made it,

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but vice versa. And then again
there were the fishing boats that they stated

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during the search and rescue. They
could see the lights from the fishing boats

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in the air, so suffice it
to say that this was the perfect flight

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condition and that there was nothing weatherwise
that should have impacted Frederick's flight. After

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Frederick's disappearance, particularly when people found
out that he was implying that there was

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a UFO circling him, the media
went absolutely insane and really just perpetuated the

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idea that a UFO had abducted Frederick. It was a complete media circus,

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totally honing in on this one probability
and completely ignoring any other possibility of what

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happened to Frederick. As I had
mentioned earlier, Frederick and his family believed

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in aliens in the existence of UFOs, so keep that in mind when I

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read the following. According to the
Department of Transports investigative report quote, Frederick's

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father was convinced and remains so according
to subsequent media publicity, that his son

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was captured by a UFO and that
he would be returned when they had finished

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investigating him. Frederick showed a great
interest in UFOs and had a collection of

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books, articles, and clippings on
the subject, but father did not think

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that his son was convinced of their
existence, as he himself was. In

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an interview with The Age, which
is a Melbourne based paper, his father

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stated quote, I'd rather it was
a UFO than a plane crash. And

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I really want to drive the point
home that in extreme grief like this,

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it is so common for people to
believe something that everybody else might perceive as

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far fetched. To me, this
seems like something that would be easier to

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digest than his son dying in a
plane crash, because it leaves it open

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that when they're done investigating him,
he could return. So I get it.

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In extreme grief like this, a
lot of people will believe something that's

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easier. So now I want to
jump into theories, and I want to

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start with Aliens. When I say
that, I don't know if any of

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you have seen that meme. It's
like this guy with a little bit of

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a goateee and he has crazy hair
and he's got his hands like next to

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his head. I think it's from
the History Channel and it just says aliens.

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I got a post on social media, But every time I say that,

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I just think of this guy from
the History Channel, which is dishoveled

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hair and it just says aliens anyway. But what I thought was really interesting

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is that after his disappearance, so
many people suddenly started spotting UFOs. I'm

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going to read through two different reports
in this investigation from the Department of Transport

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where they received phone calls from people
that swore that they saw UFOs, which

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I think is really interesting, honestly, especially because one of them comes from

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a very credible source. At approximately
eighteen hundred hours on October twenty second,

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nineteen seventy eight, so that's six
pm the next day, I received a

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telephone call at my home front.
I'm going to leave the person's name out

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of it. You can look up
this investigative report online, but I don't

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want to name anybody. So this
man stated that he was a responsible person,

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an officer in the Royal Australian Air
Force Reserve, and he did not

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wish to create the opinion that he
was a nut. I respect that lead

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off with that. So this guy
stated that at around six point fifty five

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on the previous night, so when
Frederick was in his flight that evening,

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he was traveling from Mount Waverley in
a southerly direction along Huntingdale Road. Mount

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Waverley is a suburb in Melbourne,
so super close. He further states that

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he observed a shower of very bright
metallic scintillations, which I'm not gonna lie.

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That's a new word for me outside
of physics. So I know that

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word in the context of physics,
but this doesn't apply so outside of physics,

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when we're not talking about light and
photons, it's just like flashing beams

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of light. So picture the way
I understand it. You're wearing a diamond

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ring. You got your windows open, and the light kind of hits the

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diamond and it causes like those lights
to kind of beam off of it.

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And that is what scintillation means outside
of physics. So he sees these weird

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lights in the sky at an angle
of about forty five degrees. How the

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fuck this dude is able to determine
that is beyond me, But I digress.

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But he states, at an angle
of about forty five degrees from the

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horizontal, one point five degrees of
are in vertical plane and one degree are

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in the lateral plane. This is
like so precise. I don't know if

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the dude had like a really intense
protractor in the trunk of his car.

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But this is what it says from
the report, so apparently it was followed

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by a dark trail moving from south
to north. At first he thought it

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to be a meteor shower, but
apparently he then thought it was a UFO

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sighting. Then a man named John
Snow he was driving his car on Saturday

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night the same night, at around
eleven forty five when his eleven year old

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son saw a greenish white light of
some length flash quite fast across the sky

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to the south. But John Snow
himself, nor anybody else and his family

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had saw the light, just his
eleven year old son. Five years after

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Frederick's disappearance, an engine cowl flap
was found washed ashore on Flinders Island,

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which is located just east of king
Island. In July of nineteen eighty three,

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the Bureau of Air Safety Investigation asked
the Royal Australian Navy Research Lab about

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the likelihood that this cowflap could have
traveled to the position it ended up in

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from the region where Frederick's aircraft had
disappeared, and they noted that quote the

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part has been identified as coming from
a Sesna one to eighty two aircraft between

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a certain range of serial numbers end
quote. But these serial numbers did include

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the aircraft that Frederick was flying in
at the time of his disappearance, so

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super vague but not ruling out the
fact that it could have come from his

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plane. In twenty thirteen, a
retired United States It's Air Force pilot and

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astronomer really weird combo but I Digress
co authored an article for The Skeptical Inquirer,

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which is subtitled The Magazine for Science
and Reason. Take it for what

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it's worth and how you will.
But according to the article, quote as

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it happens, a computer search of
the sky for the day time and place

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of valentageous flight reveals that the four
points of bright light he would almost certainly

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have seen were the following venus,
which was that its very brightest, Mars

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Mercury, and the bright star and
Terry's. These four lights would have represented

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a diamond shape, given the well
known tendencies of viewers to connect the dots,

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and so could well have been perceived
as an aircraft or UFO. In

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fact, the striking conjunction was shaped
as a vertically elongated diamond, thus explaining

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valentageous saying of the UFO that it's
a long shape. As to the UFO's

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other characteristics, the metallic or shiny
appearance could have been due to the power

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of suggestion alone. Having connected the
dots, Valentich would likely have gone on

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to fill in the areas as solid, even metallic. We must remember that

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Valentich's impressions are those of someone who
is confused about what he was seeing.

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The green light could have been part
of this confusion. Also, remember Valentich's

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first description of the UFO involved only
four bright white lights. He made no

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mention at the time of a green
one. It could actually have been nothing

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more than the sesna's own navigation lights
on the right wing tip. That green

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light or its reflection on the windshields
could easily have been superimposed onto the UFO

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sighting end quote. Other theories suggested
that Frederick staged his own disappearance, or

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that he possibly became disoriented and began
flying upside down or inverted. If this

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did actually happen, this would allow
him to see his aircraft's lights reflecting off

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of the water. But the problem
is with the specific model. Says now

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that he was in it would not
have allowed him to fly inverted for a

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long time because the fuel system that
it had was a gravity feed fuel system,

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so if it was inverted, that
gravity would not be feeding a fuel

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system. Therefore, the engine would
have cut off not long after the plane

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inverted. So who knows it's plausible, but whether it's probable or not is

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beyond me. Another theory is that
Frederick committed suicide, but a lot of

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people believe that, based on interviews
with several people that knew him, as

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well as doctors, that this was
a less plausible theory. At the end

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of the day, we just don't
know what happened, and I'm not sure

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that we ever will. Frederick's disappearance
would not be the last. A few

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years later, in nineteen eighty one, another aircraft disappeared without a trace in

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the forests of New South Wales.
To this day, no trace of the

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aircraft or its occupants have been found. However, there are a lot of

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other factors that go into play with
that disappearance, regarding freezing over and weird

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temperature conditions, but a lot of
people like to link the two, so

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I figured I would mention it as
well. Frederick Valentich's disappearance is the perfect

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mixture of mystery, intrigue, and
a dash of I want to believe.

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The theories are all over the place, from a simple case of pilot error

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to him skipping town to start his
new life, maybe as a crayfish salesman.

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His story is frustrating, fascinating,
and it makes you want to flip

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the table and declare, UFOs did
it. But here's the thing, We're

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probably never going to know what really
happened to Frederick. Frederick's story is one

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that, over decades has invited speculation, conversation, and maybe a little bit

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of hope and intrigue that there's more
out there than we can see from the

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little planet that we call home.
So whether you're a skeptic, whether you're

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feet firmly on the ground, or
a believer with your eyes on the stars,

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the story of Frederick Valentich is a
wild ride without a clear destination,

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and maybe, just maybe that's exactly
how it should be. After all,

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his father stated that he'd rather believe
it was a UFO than a plane crash,

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So maybe we should just keep it
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